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I don't know much about Gregory besides the failed drug test. But is he worth it at 50? He seemed to lack accountability for his actions when interviewed on NFL network before the draft

 

 

Even bigger than the drug tests is he's got serious questions about his love for the game and often simply seemed like he didn't care to flip on his motor during games last year. Granted he wouldn't be the first chronic smoker to have motivation questions.

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Even bigger than the drug tests is he's got serious questions about his love for the game and often simply seemed like he didn't care to flip on his motor during games last year. Granted he wouldn't be the first chronic smoker to have motivation questions.

I was reading that his issues might be deeper than just that. Like anxiety/ depression issues. Great talent but I worry about guys who struggle with motivation.

 

I really like Williams and I'm good with a olinemen. I don't want a QB so that's probably who we will pick. :)

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Here's who's left out of Mayock's top 100 for reference:

 

16. La'el Collins, OT, LSU
17. Randy Gregory
, DE, Nebraska
27. Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
29. Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State
31. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri
32. Landon Collins, S, Alabama
33. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh
35. Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma
36. Eli Harold, DE, Virginia
38. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State
39. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon
40. Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State

41. Ameer Abdullah, RB, Nebraska
42. Paul Dawson
, LB, TCU
44. Eric Rowe, CB, Utah
45. Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA
46. Duke Johnson, RB, Miami (Fla.)
47. Carl Davis, DT, Iowa
48. Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana
49. Preston Smith, DE, Mississippi State
51. Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
54. Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA
55. T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama
56. A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina
57. Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State
58. Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota
59. Doran Grant, CB, Ohio State
60. Denzel Perryman, LB, Miami (Fla.)

61. Mario Edwards, Jr., DE, Florida State
62. Senquez Golson
, CB, Mississippi
63. Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State
64. Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio)
65. Devin Funchess, WR, Michigan
66. David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa
67. Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State
68. Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor
69. P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
70. Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State

71. Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
72. Clive Walford
, TE, Miami (Fla.)
73. Mitch Morse, C, Missouri
74. Rashad Greene, WR, Florida State
75. Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State
76. Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson
77. Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA
78. Jaquiski Tartt, S, Samford
79. Javorius Allen, RB, USC
80. Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State

81. Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers
82. Daryl Williams
, OT, Oklahoma
83. Za'Darius Smith, DE, Kentucky
84. Markus Golden, DE, Missouri
85. Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State
86. Henry Anderson, DE, Alabama
87. Ali Marpet, OT, Hobart
88. Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
89. Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
90. Tre' Jackson, G, Florida State

91. Alex Carter, CB, Stanford
92. Josh Shaw
, CB, USC
93. Xavier Cooper, DT, Washington State
94. Jeremiah Poutasi, OT, Utah
95. D'Joun Smith, CB, Florida Atlantic
96. Ibraheim Campbell, S, Northwestern
97. Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford
98. Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville
99. Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
100. Danielle Hunter, DE, LSU

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I really hope Collins falls to us.

 

Both the Jets and Fins are going to have strong defensive lines this year. Whoever our QB is, he's going to get crushed if our OL plays like last year.

 

Richie was a great pickup but we need more help.

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I really hope Collins falls to us.

 

Both the Jets and Fins are going to have strong defensive lines this year. Whoever our QB is, he's going to get crushed if our OL plays like last year.

 

Richie was a great pickup but we need more help.

Collins might keep falling. It sounds like he is innocent but this is a bad situation.

 

And I'm not assuming anything with RI. He hasn't played in a year and half. I won't mind multiple o linemen drafted this weekend.

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Have you ever watched The First 48?

And it is reported many teams have taken Collins off their draft boards. He is probably the best lineman in this draft. Collins was a 5 star recruit out of high school, all american in college, would of been a high selection last draft, but came back for senior year and played great. Scouts have been following him for a long time. To pull Collins off the draft board is telling. I bet every team in the nfl is trying to solve this this case and weigh risk/reward. But where there is smoke there tends to be fire

 

Agreed...

 

The one thing that would seem to be fairly easy to determine is his alibi...But then you have the possibility he was involved through others...

 

This is a tremendously tough call due to his talent level, and of course the severity of the crime...We're talking about a kid that was a potential top 15 pick at a position almost every team needs, and a position the Bills would LOVE to fill...It's some serious temptation...And I think you're right Pete...If he continues to slide the Bills are going to be investigating this as much as possible right up until they pick at #50... B-)

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Statement from Gregory:

 

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The idea that someone else's decision that he had no control over amounts to him letting someone down doesn't compute for me.

 

Wow...I'm guessing the stuff that nobody knows about him--not even his family--is what's causing him to drop.

That could be. It would explain the logical void in his statement.

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The idea that someone else's decision that he had no control over amounts to him letting someone down doesn't compute for me.

 

That could be. It would explain the logical void in his statement.

 

Sure...of course, at some point, someone's going to leak what he said. I sure hope--for the sake of the teams passing on him--it's some cause for legitimate concern like emotional issues, psychological issues, etc. and not something totally unrelated to football like he's a Scientologist or homosexual.

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Statement from Gregory:

 

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I actually gained a lot of respect for this kid with that. Obviously, someone is steering him to do this but still. If he was mature enough to lay it all out there and admit his mistakes that is a positive. I assumed that if you were dumb enough to get busted at the combine that it is as much about not caring. This says to me that he does care.

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I actually gained a lot of respect for this kid with that. Obviously, someone is steering him to do this but still. If he was mature enough to lay it all out there and admit his mistakes that is a positive. I assumed that if you were dumb enough to get busted at the combine that it is as much about not caring. This says to me that he does care.

the buzz that "the other shoe was going to drop on Gregory" makes me think he has some issues that a team didn't want to have to worry about going public. He hasnt told his family?
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I say draft Gregory. He's a starter and a impact player.then try trading up for Collins on the OL. They are both risks but 1st round talents. If one pans out they did a great job. If both pan out, they struck gold

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I say draft Gregory. He's a starter and a impact player.then try trading up for Collins on the OL. They are both risks but 1st round talents. If one pans out they did a great job. If both pan out, they struck gold

 

I think the chances of Gregory being around at #50 are slim and none...And slim done left town... B-)

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Statement from Gregory:

 

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I think his hearts in a good place, my problem is this process isn't a MTV confessional, it's a job interview. He should honestly answer the questions asked of him, but if I'm interviewing some kid and he goes off on a tangent about emotional issues he's dealing with or makes confessions and tells me he hasn't even told his family that information, I'm probably going to say "this guy has a screw loose, pass."

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I really just want one of AJ Cann or Jake Fisher and one of Eric Kendricks, Bernardrick McKinney or Denzel Perryman. Trade our 5th, 2 6ths and 7th to make that happen. Spend Saturday setting up the UDFA list, hit that hard as soon as round 7 ends and sell them on not having to compete with other drafted rookies for a spot.

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Given the options I agree. And I agree that he won't fall. Same with Dawson. Perryman looks to be a thumper, but a 2-down ILB. Of course "they" said the same about Preston Brown and he proved "them" to be idiots.

 

IMHO, much depends on when the standard 2nd round run on O lineman begins. If it's later than normal....we may see some value drop to us.

 

EDIT: looking at the picks again...perhaps the O line run has already begun? Man this is a crappy draft class.

It really does seem like a weak draft!

I really just want one of AJ Cann or Jake Fisher and one of Eric Kendricks, Bernardrick McKinney or Denzel Perryman. Trade our 5th, 2 6ths and 7th to make that happen. Spend Saturday setting up the UDFA list, hit that hard as soon as round 7 ends and sell them on not having to compete with other drafted rookies for a spot.

I would be fine with that!

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