Captain Caveman Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Assuming he's innocent and eventually cleared, it might be best for him to go undrafted, then he would be in position to choose where he wants to play and should be able to command a very strong signing bonus. Edit: I just looked up rookie contract salaries, and I realize that there is still a very big difference between first round and late round picks, so financially he's probably still best off as a first round pick. Edited April 30, 2015 by Captain Caveman
xsoldier54 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 He also has injury issues. That turf toe is no joke and I think based on the other red flags I would have to pass.
Lurker Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) He also has injury issues. That turf toe is no joke and I think based on the other red flags I would have to pass. Shane Ray has the turf toe issue, not Collins... Edited April 30, 2015 by Lurker
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 @YahooSports Report: The agent for top prospect La'el Collins is hoping to remove him from the draft to clear his name --> http://yhoo.it/1dxVwM1 #NFL
Lurker Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 @YahooSports Report: The agent for top prospect La'el Collins is hoping to remove him from the draft to clear his name --> http://yhoo.it/1dxVwM1 #NFL That request doesn't appear to sit well with the NFL, due to worries about setting a precedent...
Malazan Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I say if he's still there in the 5th, take him. I think a 5th is worth the risk that you have to cut him if he's not cleared. Time to win games, not humanitarian awards.
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 So the police won't speak to him because the investigation is ongoing, wouldn't they need to speak to him as part of the investigation if he was a suspect? If that is true, it seems like they want to try and determine custody of the child, right? I really do wonder if we put Buddy on the case to try and determine what the story is here. I'm assuming at least one team will come up with some intel that will allow them to take Collins relatively early.
johnwalter Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 40s40 seconds ago NFL rejects agent's request to pull La'el Collins from draft in favor of supplemental draft, per @RapSheet http://at.nfl.com/FbLQtmw
ALF Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 40s40 seconds ago NFL rejects agent's request to pull La'el Collins from draft in favor of supplemental draft, per @RapSheet http://at.nfl.com/FbLQtmw Good news , I'll take him at 50
Lurker Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Good news , I'll take him at 50 The gunslinger / big splash mentality of our GM, HC and owner, that would be a real hoot...
KOKBILLS Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 40s40 seconds ago NFL rejects agent's request to pull La'el Collins from draft in favor of supplemental draft, per @RapSheet http://at.nfl.com/FbLQtmw OK...Now this is getting interesting...
KD in CA Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I don't get the undraftable part. Why wouldn't you take him in the third round and say we believe in giving people a fair shot. He won't play one snap for us until he is completely exonerated. If he is arrested he will be immediately released and not play a down for us. Because teams understand you don't necessarily get to control the message in today's media age. These are billion dollar corporations who will not put one employee above the risk of a PR mess. OJ 'wasn't a suspect' either the first time he spoke to police. I'm not saying he'll go undrafted, but I wouldn't be surprised. I bet a number of teams have taken him off their boards.
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Because teams understand you don't necessarily get to control the message in today's media age. These are billion dollar corporations who will not put one employee above the risk of a PR mess. OJ 'wasn't a suspect' either the first time he spoke to police. I'm not saying he'll go undrafted, but I wouldn't be surprised. I bet a number of teams have taken him off their boards. Yep. If the situation does devolve -- and clearly, that's not a non-zero possibility given the circumstances and the crime -- the mess won't be worth it. Edited April 30, 2015 by dave mcbride
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Didn't think of this angle -- @SalSports: If the Bills want to draft an OL (which I think they do), the La'el Collins situation hurts their plans. Pushes all the other OTs up a bit.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Didn't think of this angle -- @SalSports: If the Bills want to draft an OL (which I think they do), the La'el Collins situation hurts their plans. Pushes all the other OTs up a bit. That's what I've been fearing.
KD in CA Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Yep. If the situation does devolve -- and clearly, that's not a non-zero possibility given the circumstances and the crime -- the mess won't be worth it. And I don't see the Pegulas being that type of risk-taking owners.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Yep. If the situation does devolve -- and clearly, that's not a non-zero possibility given the circumstances and the crime -- the mess won't be worth it. That is the beauty of doing it this way though. You don't risk that mess. You cut him immediately after you made it crystal clear that you are doing this the American way. If there is an arrest or a potential mess, he is gone before he even puts on a jersey or gets one cent. You lose the pick but not the media onslaught. if he is cleared, you look like the good guys, the smart guys, and the winners of a #1 OL who loves you for a #3 pick. You could only do it if you looked into it and him and there wasn't a great chance that he was indeed involved.
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 SEC player in a murder investigation? The Pats have called dibs. Bills have their own murderous ties as well
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Bills have their own murderous ties as well Yeah, but we win our murder trials. The *pats don't.
JM57 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 If he's still there after round 4, you have to take him if you're Whaley. You've already said the late rounders probably aren't making the team so cutting him if he did face charges is no issue, on the opposite side, you have a potential mega-steal
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