YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Would ya? Would be major value in the 2nd @ArifHasanNFL: .@LanceZierlein says on http://t.co/HpA218qGnYthat Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first" @nfldraftscout: Per @BKSportsTalk, Missouri defender Shane Ray cited for marijuana possession this morning outside Columbia, MO. https://t.co/dDYR1aIhKg Edited April 27, 2015 by YoloinOhio
PaattMaann Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 You could pretty much wipe out year 1 impact - might have him healthy and ready to play by November, but he would need to get in "game shape"....but that said, I just might!! Haha There is a difference between "dropping out of the first" and dropping all the way down to 50 though....and I'm not interested in a trade up
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised to see he or Randy Gregory still available. would be tough decision for whaley.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I feel bad for this kid. He has a tough back story. I'm all for getting elite talent. And you never ever can have enough pass rushers.
RyanC883 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 YES. We are okay on defense right now, and are in the perfect position to get such an impact player that could be helpful in the playoff run or next year. Although, I still can't see him making it to 50.
Chuck Wagon Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 How would it work regarding a roster spot? If he's not ready to go you put him on IR-designated return If he or Gregory are there at 50 then you take them. Given the way this class stacks up, I really don't expect there to be much difference between the guy who goes #19 and the guys available at #50, unless one of the top ~12 prospects fall to 19.
NoSaint Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 If he's not ready to go you put him on IR-designated return If he or Gregory are there at 50 then you take them. Given the way this class stacks up, I really don't expect there to be much difference between the guy who goes #19 and the guys available at #50, unless one of the top ~12 prospects fall to 19. if hes not ready you put him on PUP, instead of taking up the spot for designated return.
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 I guess this is where you stick to your board as a GM. This is why I couldn't be a GM. If Shane ray or randy Gregory fall to 50 or close enough where you could reasonably trade up and you have a top 15 grade on them you likely should pounce. But to me I would have such a difficult time looking past a need, like if I could get a OL who i gave a 2nd rd grade - say AJ cann or laken Tomlinson for example. Whaley is a risk taker. I don't know if he will be faced with a decision like this but it makes the draft intriguing.
NoSaint Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) I guess this is where you stick to your board as a GM. This is why I couldn't be a GM. If Shane ray or randy Gregory fall to 50 or close enough where you could reasonably trade up and you have a top 15 grade on them you likely should pounce. But to me I would have such a difficult time looking past a need, like if I could get a OL who i gave a 2nd rd grade - say AJ cann or laken Tomlinson for example. Whaley is a risk taker. I don't know if he will be faced with a decision like this but it makes the draft intriguing. i wouldnt be surprised AT ALL to see a pass rusher or big body taken high. you need a lot of them in the rotation if you want them going 100% every play. we saw how bad the defense hurt when MD was off the field (i know not a shane ray equivalent, but discussing the wider issue of front 4). Getting a starter quality player as your 3rd in rotation at DE or DT would be a huge pickup for this team still. Edited April 23, 2015 by NoSaint
FluffHead Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 He shouldn't fall to 50 but if he does then yes take him Randy Gregory screams bust to me. Maybin-esque
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 Scratch off Ray, no surgery needed. False alarm,just turf toe. Good for him though.
Beerball Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I guess this is where you stick to your board as a GM. This is why I couldn't be a GM. If Shane ray or randy Gregory fall to 50 or close enough where you could reasonably trade up and you have a top 15 grade on them you likely should pounce. But to me I would have such a difficult time looking past a need, like if I could get a OL who i gave a 2nd rd grade - say AJ cann or laken Tomlinson for example. Whaley is a risk taker. I don't know if he will be faced with a decision like this but it makes the draft intriguing. What also makes this intriguing is we don't really know what the coaches and FO feel about last year's o-line draftees. Do they have some optimism? Zero optimism? We're working blind here.
D521646 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I say no to both Ray and Gregory for the exact same reason Maybin was a no for me.. Tim-
ko12010 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Scratch off Ray, no surgery needed. False alarm,just turf toe. Good for him though. Turf toe can be devastating though, and lingers often times Edited April 24, 2015 by ko12010
Chuck Wagon Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Ray does have a Maybin feel, granted he was stuck behind Sam & Kony Ealy in 2013, but he really only had 1 good year. Also hated his ejection for a clear cheap shot on Blake Sims early in the SEC title game.
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 Well well well (yes I know he probably won't fall to 50). But interesting all these injuries being leaked a week before draft. Ray, Ajai, Clemmings. @RapSheet: Pitt OT TJ Clemmings had a stress fracture in his foot discovered on a team visit, sources says. He didnt feel pain, didnt know it existed
KollegeStudnet Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Lock Ray in! He would be solid rotational guy Well well well (yes I know he probably won't fall to 50). But interesting all these injuries being leaked a week before draft. Ray, Ajai, Clemmings. @RapSheet: Pitt OT TJ Clemmings had a stress fracture in his foot discovered on a team visit, sources says. He didnt feel pain, didnt know it existed As for Clemmings, I had a similar injury. The sucky part is I thought it was planter fascitis. Turned out to be a stress fracture in the heel. It wasn't painful at all, just annoying once in a while--until the fracture was found. Shouldn't be too much of a deal for his draft status Edited April 24, 2015 by KollegeStudnet
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 @nfldraftscout: Per @BKSportsTalk, Missouri defender Shane Ray cited for marijuana possession this morning outside Columbia, MO. https://t.co/dDYR1aIhKg
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