Tiberius Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 You don't think preparation of that **** food can't be automated? Pretty soon no one will have a job and the government will just have to give away money to keep up consumer spending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 We have some lower paid folks here. That's the highest area of turnover in the company and the common denominator amongst them over the years is that they just don't commit themselves to upward mobility. Many have similar behavior which is poorer than average attendance, lousy work ethic, are less than honest and have personal issues that get in the way of work. Their priorities are different than those of more successful people and they tend to hang out with others who are equally low performers so they're comfortable. That and their entertainment comes from a phone, the internet, booze and sex all of which are cheap and the handouts are better than ever. Education is expensive and it ain't fun or cool. WhereTF do you work? Ther circus? w/Carnies? :-P Pretty soon no one will have a job and the government will just have to give away money to keep up consumer spending And the main motto to try and convert the ones that are indifferent to money will be: "Save and invest it!" Followed by: "Go out and shop till you drop, the Holiday Season depends on you!" Yeah... Sure It's like the old Stephen Wright joke about naming his dog: "Stay." "I got a dog and named him 'Stay'. Now, I go 'Come here, Stay!' After a while, the dog went insane and wouldn't move at all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 WhereTF do you work? Ther circus? w/Carnies? :-P He's works on locks for the USACE, I believe... You don't think preparation of that **** food can't be automated? It practically is already. Most of that ****'s pre-measured and pre-made - the human interaction is basically "putting things on top of other things." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 This whole topic reminds me about an article I read in readers digest "America's greatest threat: Our inner softness" it was about how the American youth was Soft, lazy, spoiled and sullen because of our modern comforts and labor saving devices........ written in 1939 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 This whole topic reminds me about an article I read in readers digest "America's greatest threat: Our inner softness" it was about how the American youth was Soft, lazy, spoiled and sullen because of our modern comforts and labor saving devices........ written in 1939 Automatic transmissions and gun stabilizers on Sherman tanks. Semi-automatic M1 Garands. Automatic dive recovery flaps and constant-speed props on P-38s. Radar ranging on US Navy ships (because the US sailors were just to lazy to use coincidental 20m visual range finders..."Waaah, my eyes are getting tired!") Air conditioning on fleet submarines. Proximity fuses on anti-aircraft shells ("It's too haaaaard to set a timed fuse!") Face it...the so-called "Greatest Generation" were a bunch of limp-wristed pussies. Except the Marines. You know why? Because the Navy wouldn't give the Marines jack ****. Bazookas? !@#$ you, here's a rifle grenade. Semi-auto rifles? Here's a bolt-action Springfield...and you have to walk to the ammo dump for it, through the Japs, uphill both ways, without shoes, and you'll like it. What, you want tanks? Here's some M2A2 Combat Cars that can be disabled by a Japanese soldier with a stick. You want your own aircraft? We'll give you the absolutely shittiest aircraft ever built...so bad that the defense company building it went bankrupt during a war. Radios? You've got staff sergeants...they can shout. Marines didn't get labor-saving devices or creature comforts ("Food? You don't need food. Eat captured Japanese rice.") That's why Marines weren't limp-wristed pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 He's works on locks for the USACE, I believe... He can only wish to be affiliated w/the "finest engineering organization in the world." Essayons! LoL... ;-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 He can only wish to be affiliated w/the "finest engineering organization in the world." Apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Pretty soon no one will have a job and the government will just have to give away money to keep up consumer spending And gator's utopia will have been achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I think the poor have become enslaved in a way now. Given enough money to sustain but not to much else. The motivation of starvation is long gone. People used to be motivated by shame. Now, for whatever reason, shame and embarrassment has been taken out of the equation. People are content with living in Section 8. Welfare and food stamps. Wrangle yourself a IPhone and you got the world by the nuts. I guess. They are a government created constituency that keeps voting for the ones that don't threaten to take this grand lifestyle away. um wait. wasn't proper use of to/too a predictor of work ethic earlier in the thread? Automatic transmissions and gun stabilizers on Sherman tanks. Semi-automatic M1 Garands. Automatic dive recovery flaps and constant-speed props on P-38s. Radar ranging on US Navy ships (because the US sailors were just to lazy to use coincidental 20m visual range finders..."Waaah, my eyes are getting tired!") Air conditioning on fleet submarines. Proximity fuses on anti-aircraft shells ("It's too haaaaard to set a timed fuse!") Face it...the so-called "Greatest Generation" were a bunch of limp-wristed pussies. Except the Marines. You know why? Because the Navy wouldn't give the Marines jack ****. Bazookas? !@#$ you, here's a rifle grenade. Semi-auto rifles? Here's a bolt-action Springfield...and you have to walk to the ammo dump for it, through the Japs, uphill both ways, without shoes, and you'll like it. What, you want tanks? Here's some M2A2 Combat Cars that can be disabled by a Japanese soldier with a stick. You want your own aircraft? We'll give you the absolutely shittiest aircraft ever built...so bad that the defense company building it went bankrupt during a war. Radios? You've got staff sergeants...they can shout. Marines didn't get labor-saving devices or creature comforts ("Food? You don't need food. Eat captured Japanese rice.") That's why Marines weren't limp-wristed pussies. seems an ocean of difference between limp wrested pu$$ies and normal pu$$ies. in fact, seems a world of difference between average joes and marines by your definition. are you suggesting that avg joes are pu$$ies? Liberals bad, blah blah Capitalism has provided such plenty and labor saving devices that people are getting a little too use to it. Victims of our own success you're not real, are you? No! Capitalism is the goose laying golden eggs! We liberals need it more than you Conservatives do! There, I said it! nope. definitely not. This whole topic reminds me about an article I read in readers digest "America's greatest threat: Our inner softness" it was about how the American youth was Soft, lazy, spoiled and sullen because of our modern comforts and labor saving devices........ written in 1939 steinbeck, anyone? not readers digest but still... Edited April 21, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Automatic transmissions and gun stabilizers on Sherman tanks. Semi-automatic M1 Garands. Automatic dive recovery flaps and constant-speed props on P-38s. Radar ranging on US Navy ships (because the US sailors were just to lazy to use coincidental 20m visual range finders..."Waaah, my eyes are getting tired!") Air conditioning on fleet submarines. Proximity fuses on anti-aircraft shells ("It's too haaaaard to set a timed fuse!") Face it...the so-called "Greatest Generation" were a bunch of limp-wristed pussies. Except the Marines. You know why? Because the Navy wouldn't give the Marines jack ****. Bazookas? !@#$ you, here's a rifle grenade. Semi-auto rifles? Here's a bolt-action Springfield...and you have to walk to the ammo dump for it, through the Japs, uphill both ways, without shoes, and you'll like it. What, you want tanks? Here's some M2A2 Combat Cars that can be disabled by a Japanese soldier with a stick. You want your own aircraft? We'll give you the absolutely shittiest aircraft ever built...so bad that the defense company building it went bankrupt during a war. Radios? You've got staff sergeants...they can shout. Marines didn't get labor-saving devices or creature comforts ("Food? You don't need food. Eat captured Japanese rice.") That's why Marines weren't limp-wristed pussies. The article didn't focus much on war more about how kids are living in heated homes and driving instead of walking and driving in enclosed cars , also how the disappearance of the cuspidor and the cut tobacco plug was pussifying America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The article didn't focus much on war more about how kids are living in heated homes and driving instead of walking and driving in enclosed cars , also how the disappearance of the cuspidor and the cut tobacco plug was pussifying America. My father was born in the early 1930's... Cheektowaga, they had an outhouse till he was 14. Winters are tough in BFLO, you know what the bedpot was for. His other relatives had the best peonies in town, right outside the bedroom window. Guess what got tossed out that window! LoL He's was always like: "You kids got it soft!" Gee Dad, you think? LoL Tobacco Road Cayuga Creek version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The article didn't focus much on war more about how kids are living in heated homes and driving instead of walking and driving in enclosed cars , also how the disappearance of the cuspidor and the cut tobacco plug was pussifying America. So I take it you didn't grow up in a home with a cuspidor and tobacco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Apple? Apple is anything but civil. ;-P So I take it you didn't grow up in a home with a cuspidor and tobacco? By order of the Health Department: No spitting on the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 By order of the Health Department: No spitting on the floor That's government for you. There's a lot of things I don't allow on my floor. I just don't feel a need to have to post a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The article didn't focus much on war more about how kids are living in heated homes and driving instead of walking and driving in enclosed cars , also how the disappearance of the cuspidor and the cut tobacco plug was pussifying America. It's all been downhill since the disappearance of the cut tobacco plug. That's what we need to make this country great again. Cut tobacco plugs. I'm voting for the first presidential candidate to promise to reinstate the cut tobacco plug as an American staple alongside baseball, apple pie, and internet porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 um wait. wasn't proper use of to/too a predictor of work ethic earlier in the thread? seems an ocean of difference between limp wrested pu$$ies and normal pu$$ies. in fact, seems a world of difference between average joes and marines by your definition. are you suggesting that avg joes are pu$$ies? you're not real, are you? nope. definitely not. steinbeck, anyone? not readers digest but still... No, that's not anything like I stated in post #8 of this thread. You have it completely wrong, you idiot. Nice job of removing the tonsils on the kid with a broken leg though. Once again you've shied away from debating your losing point and instead chose to completely twist what someone had posted in order to make a snarky comment. So, instead of making a useless comment, why don't you explain to us exactly how more education will improve a person's work ethic? Lest you think that I'm saying that it can't be done, the definition of education here is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 WhereTF do you work? Ther circus? w/Carnies? :-P Sometimes we refer to this place as "the island of misfit toys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 No, that's not anything like I stated in post #8 of this thread. You have it completely wrong, you idiot. Nice job of removing the tonsils on the kid with a broken leg though. Once again you've shied away from debating your losing point and instead chose to completely twist what someone had posted in order to make a snarky comment. So, instead of making a useless comment, why don't you explain to us exactly how more education will improve a person's work ethic? Lest you think that I'm saying that it can't be done, the definition of education here is important. education is a pretty broad term. i believe there's a book called a dictionary that can offer a concise definition. in this instance i mean formal or even informal learning that prepares people for the work force. ("pure"- as opposed to applied- research and learning certainly have their place but that's not the discussion here. So i'd propose more vocational programs, state run technical schools and polytechnics as part of the solution. how they would help this problem is self evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 And gator's utopia will have been achieved. Those of us in the thinking public realize it will also create new problems while it solves the older ones. Two steps forward one step back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) So i'd propose more vocational programs, state run technical schools and polytechnics as part of the solution. how they would help this problem is self evident. The problem isn't that we need more vocational programs, etc. Everywhere I've lived -- from NJ to NY to NC to FLA to CA -- there have been more than enough places for kids to learn entry level tech with vocational assistance. The challenge is getting asses into seats with kids who are motivated to do better than flipping burgers. But if you keep telling the kid that he's no more or less special than the rest of the kids, and handing out trophies to kids simply for showing up, then you're screwed from the get-go. One thing I find interesting though: the problem could be "ebola virus outbreak" and your solution would be to throw more money at education. Edited April 21, 2015 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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