Chef Jim Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I reach out with both hands with middle fingers extended.
Gugny Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 And yet, most of us still wave our hands to the left when we watch replays of Wide Right. I'm a leaner.
snafu Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Essentially Ayn Rand nonsense. I think it's 100% the opposite. Life is mostly random. Work hard and get nowhere. Be a bum and live high off the hog. It's more what happens to you that what you do. People who think they are in control of their lives are kidding themselves. Gee, I hope life lets me get out of bed tomorrow morning. But if I do, I hope life doesn't put me under a bus tire. I guess I'll just wait and see.
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Gee, I hope life lets me get out of bed tomorrow morning. But if I do, I hope life doesn't put me under a bus tire. I guess I'll just wait and see. Just remember, if you throw yourself under a bus tomorrow, it's not your fault. It's just dumb luck.
PastaJoe Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Be kind to the people that you meet on the way up, because you're going to meet the same people on the way down. -Ralph Kramden
snafu Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Just remember, if you throw yourself under a bus tomorrow, it's not your fault. It's just dumb luck. It's dumb luck that I stumbled into this thread and got such great advice.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I'm not a religious person but there is a book that offers an opinion on those who think they are the masters of their domain... Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit”— yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”- James 4:13-15 Science, too, through Quantum Mechanics, proves that there is no certainty in the universe. So why should anyone convince themselves that they alone determine their fate? I'm not surprised by the responses I'm getting. The most hilarious, since I don't agree with you, is that I must think I'm some kind of helpless victim blaming chance on my lot in life. Of course we all work toward goals, and sometimes achieve them. I am where I am because of the choices and decisions I made. But I'm humble enough to realize my plans and goals are shaped by random fate. What family you are born in, what disease you might come down with, meeting the woman you eventually marry, the big contract you land from a chance meeting...these things happen to you, and you respond to them accordingly. Only a fool believes they are in complete control of what happens to them. That's all I'm saying. Now go back you your ranting. Edited April 16, 2015 by PromoTheRobot
snafu Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I'm not a religious person but there is a book that offers an opinion on those who think they are the masters of their domain... Science, too, through Quantum Mechanics, proves that there is no certainty in the universe. So why should anyone convince themselves that they alone determine their fate? I'm not surprised by the responses I'm getting. The most hilarious, since I don't agree with you, is that I must think I'm some kind of helpless victim blaming chance on my lot in life. Of course we all work toward goals, and sometimes achieve them. I am where I am because of the choices and decisions I made. But I'm humble enough to realize my plans and goals are shaped by random fate. What family you are born in, what disease you might come down with, meeting the woman you eventually marry, the big contract you land from a chance meeting...these things happen to you, and you respond to them accordingly. Only a fool believes they are in complete control of what happens to them. That's all I'm saying. Now go back you your ranting. You make it sound like life is all and only about reacting to things that happen to you. Nobody believes that they are in complete control over every aspect of their life. This is an advice thread so here's some advice: don't state know-it-all things in absolutes and people won't jump on you.
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I'm not a religious person but there is a book that offers an opinion on those who think they are the masters of their domain... Science, too, through Quantum Mechanics, proves that there is no certainty in the universe. So why should anyone convince themselves that they alone determine their fate? I'm not surprised by the responses I'm getting. The most hilarious, since I don't agree with you, is that I must think I'm some kind of helpless victim blaming chance on my lot in life. Of course we all work toward goals, and sometimes achieve them. I am where I am because of the choices and decisions I made. But I'm humble enough to realize my plans and goals are shaped by random fate. What family you are born in, what disease you might come down with, meeting the woman you eventually marry, the big contract you land from a chance meeting...these things happen to you, and you respond to them accordingly. Only a fool believes they are in complete control of what happens to them. That's all I'm saying. Now go back you your ranting. There's a difference between "not having complete control" and "not having any control," which is what you first said. Here's some more advice: don't take philosophical advice based on an understanding of quantum mechanics from people who don't have an understanding of quantum mechanics.
Chef Jim Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I'm not a religious person but there is a book that offers an opinion on those who think they are the masters of their domain... Science, too, through Quantum Mechanics, proves that there is no certainty in the universe. So why should anyone convince themselves that they alone determine their fate? I'm not surprised by the responses I'm getting. The most hilarious, since I don't agree with you, is that I must think I'm some kind of helpless victim blaming chance on my lot in life. Of course we all work toward goals, and sometimes achieve them. I am where I am because of the choices and decisions I made. But I'm humble enough to realize my plans and goals are shaped by random fate. What family you are born in, what disease you might come down with, meeting the woman you eventually marry, the big contract you land from a chance meeting...these things happen to you, and you respond to them accordingly. Only a fool believes they are in complete control of what happens to them. That's all I'm saying. Now go back you your ranting. That's some wonderful backtracking.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 That's some wonderful backtracking. Or some awesome misunderstanding. Each person on the planet is where they are, right now, because of all of the choices they've made up until this point, and unless (or until) one decides to take full responsibility for where they're at, one can never move forward onto greater things. - Jim Stovall What was that thing about speaking in absolutes? There's a difference between "not having complete control" and "not having any control," which is what you first said. Here's some more advice: don't take philosophical advice based on an understanding of quantum mechanics from people who don't have an understanding of quantum mechanics. So are you saying that there is certainty at the quantum level.
snafu Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I'm going to take my own advice and go back to lurking more than posting.
FireChan Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I'm not a religious person but there is a book that offers an opinion on those who think they are the masters of their domain... Science, too, through Quantum Mechanics, proves that there is no certainty in the universe. So why should anyone convince themselves that they alone determine their fate? I'm not surprised by the responses I'm getting. The most hilarious, since I don't agree with you, is that I must think I'm some kind of helpless victim blaming chance on my lot in life. Of course we all work toward goals, and sometimes achieve them. I am where I am because of the choices and decisions I made. But I'm humble enough to realize my plans and goals are shaped by random fate. What family you are born in, what disease you might come down with, meeting the woman you eventually marry, the big contract you land from a chance meeting...these things happen to you, and you respond to them accordingly. Only a fool believes they are in complete control of what happens to them. That's all I'm saying. Now go back you your ranting. You can exert on control on all of the bolded. Funny thing about "things happening to you," is that you can procativey do something to avoid the negatives or reach the positives. A big no-no was the Ayn Rand reference, by the way. Essentially Ayn Rand nonsense. I think it's 100% the opposite. Life is mostly random. Work hard and get nowhere. Be a bum and live high off the hog. It's more what happens to you that what you do. People who think they are in control of their lives are kidding themselves. Also what's "100% the opposite" of an absolute? Edited April 16, 2015 by FireChan
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) A big no-no was the Ayn Rand reference, by the way. Of course it was. Also what's "100% the opposite" of an absolute?Alex, is the answer: "What is the reaction to anything Promo posts?" Edited April 16, 2015 by PromoTheRobot
FireChan Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Of course it was. Alex, is the answer: "What is the reaction to anything Promo posts?" What?
CountryCletus Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 What?It's the answer in the form of a question.
FireChan Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 It's the answer in the form of a question. I don't get it.
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