Tiberius Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/us/politics/marco-rubio-2016-presidential-campaign.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 Just after Obama meets Castro in Cuba. *is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Marco Rubio would pose the biggest challenge to Hillary. It's just a matter of whether or not the tea party folks could accept him.... I'd say it's 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Marco Rubio would pose the biggest challenge to Hillary. It's just a matter of whether or not the tea party folks could accept him.... I'd say it's 50/50 I see Scott Walker--if he can be more controlled in his comments---as the biggest threat. But its a long way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I see Scott Walker--if he can be more controlled in his comments---as the biggest threat. But its a long way out He'd be in my view the next biggest threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The big money is going to Jeb Bush and Scott Walker and the money is usually right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't usually run for president but when I do..... I pander to the most jingoistic narrow minded easily lead demographic in the hopes of leading the most diverse nation in human history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't usually run for president but when I do..... I pander to the most jingoistic narrow minded easily lead demographic in the hopes of leading the most diverse nation in human history You pander to liberals in hopes of leading the Roman Empire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 You pander to liberals in hopes of leading the Roman Empire? in following this up I submit to everyone to finish this sentence pulling from bask in and uncle tom... "When in Rome..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Marco Rubio would pose the biggest challenge to Hillary. It's just a matter of whether or not the tea party folks could accept him.... I'd say it's 50/50What makes him any different than the other clowns?. He has the cookie cutter platform that doesnt reosnate with voters: - God is my co-pilot - bomb Iran - Al Gore invented global warming - govt gets to determine what pregnant women do with their bodies - cut entitlement programs but increase military spending - the solution to gun violence is more guns Blah, blah, blah.... He has no chance IMO, totally unaligned with public opinion Edited April 13, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Marco Rubio Declares Candidacy, Saying “Yesterday Is Over.” Marco Rubio switches from English to Spanish without blinking. Hillary eats at Chipotle. . Marco Rubio slams Hillary Clinton as ‘a leader from yesterday … promising to take us back to yesterday’ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Marco Rubio would pose the biggest challenge to Hillary. It's just a matter of whether or not the tea party folks could accept him.... I'd say it's 50/50 Rubio is actually a TEA party favorite. I don't know that that's necessarily going to help him, but he's right up there with Cruz and Paul in terms of TEA party support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What makes him any different than the other clowns?. He has the cookie cutter platform that doesnt reosnate with voters: - God is my co-pilot - bomb Iran - Al Gore invented global warming - govt gets to determine what pregnant women do with their bodies - cut entitlement programs but increase military spending - the solution to gun violence is more guns Blah, blah, blah.... He has no chance IMO, totally unaligned with public opinion No, he doesn't resonate with you. Don't speak for voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) No, he doesn't resonate with you. Don't speak for voters. this "experiment" was run 2 years ago and Obama got almost 2/3rds of the Electoral college. And he wasnt even considered a strong incumbent. That vote was as much a negative on repubes agenda. And yet they keep playing the same losing hand Edited April 14, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Rubio is actually a TEA party favorite. I don't know that that's necessarily going to help him, but he's right up there with Cruz and Paul in terms of TEA party support. He WAS a TEA party favorite. Just ask some of the resident nativist's of this board what they think of Marco Rubio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 He WAS a TEA party favorite. Just ask some of the resident nativist's of this board what they think of Marco Rubio. That may be true. I was speaking to his support from TEA party groups in general, not to what certain individuals may think of him. Rubio may well wind up in a situation like Rand Paul is finding himself in - losing some of his TEA party support by softening his stances on certain issues in order to appeal more to the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't usually run for president but when I do..... I pander to the most jingoistic narrow minded easily lead demographic in the hopes of leading the most diverse nation in human history I think we completely agree here. That Chipotle thing was pretty embarrassing, yet the jingoistic narrow-minded ate it up. He WAS a TEA party favorite. Just ask some of the resident nativist's of this board what they think of Marco Rubio. While has isn't the TEA party favorite right now, I have not doubt the TEA party would come out in droves for him if he gets the nod...unlike they would for, say, Jeb. Rubio is a great speaker, he's proven he'll cross the aisle (which is desperately needed right now) and if gets the nod and picks someone like Susan Martinez as his running mate, the next time you see Hillary at Chipotle, she'll be taking your order.* *Dear nutsuckers...this is a joke. Everyone knows Hillary has hundreds of millions of dollars at her disposal from foreign governments who paid her off while she was SoS and would never have to enter a Chipotle again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 That may be true. I was speaking to his support from TEA party groups in general, not to what certain individuals may think of him. Rubio may well wind up in a situation like Rand Paul is finding himself in - losing some of his TEA party support by softening his stances on certain issues in order to appeal more to the mainstream. I just think he provides the best contrast to Hillary. He would certainly do better than Romney with latino's, youth vote, tea partiers and some of those white collar non ideological working class folks who bought into the caricature of Romney being a heartless plutocrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I just think he provides the best contrast to Hillary. He would certainly do better than Romney with latino's, youth vote, tea partiers and some of those white collar non ideological working class folks who bought into the caricature of Romney being a heartless plutocrat. Agreed 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 A great deal has been said about the manner in which Marco Rubio wielded his personal story in yesterday’s announcement speech. And rightly so. His family biography is one of his best weapons against both the other contenders within his own party and against Hillary Clinton, the Democrats’ presumptive nominee. Currently, Hillary is complaining about CEO pay. And yet she makes $300,000 per speech. She is contending that the game is rigged for those at the top. And yet, she is at the top. She is lamenting that the country’s leadership is not working. And yet she and her family and their party have provided much of, if not most of, that leadership during the last 20 years. If Rubio plays his cards right, he can make Clinton’s gripes look hollow — or, even better, he can blame her for the very problems she is highlighting. "Both of my parents were born to poor families in Cuba. After his mother died when he was nine, my father left school to go work. My mother was one of seven girls raised by a disabled father who struggled to provide for his family. My father became a bartender. My mother a cashier, a maid and a Kmart stock clerk. They never made it big. But they were successful. Two immigrants with little money or education found stable jobs, owned a home, retired with security and gave all four of their children a life far better than their own. My candidacy might seem improbable to some watching from abroad. In many countries, the highest office in the land is reserved for the rich and powerful. But I live in an exceptional country where even the son of a bartender and a maid can have the same dreams and the same future as those who come from power and privilege. I regret my father did not live to see this day in person. He used to tell me all the time: En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos. “In this country, you will achieve all the things we never could.” On days when I am tired or discouraged, I remember the sound of his keys jingling at the front door of our home, often well past midnight, as he returned from another long day at work. When I was younger, I didn’t fully appreciate all he did for us, but now as my own children grow older, I fully understand. My father stood behind a small portable bar in the back of a room for all those years, so that tonight I could stand behind this podium in the front of this room. That journey, from behind that bar to behind this podium, is the essence of the American Dream. Whether or not we remain a special country will depend on whether that journey is still possible for those trying to make it now." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 It is an impressive story B-Man. I think with his being young and playing the hope for a new generation taking over and fixing the problems the old guys made works. Worked for Barack. Could work for him too. The challenge will be in trying to deliver a more moderate message. If his message is the same ole Republican smaller government, same policies on immagration, tax cuts for the job creators (which doesn't work anyway), bomb the peejeebers out of the terrorists, nation building, he'll have no chance. If he stays more moderate and open he could have a real chance. The new fresh face vs Clinton fatigue. Could be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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