Rich in Ohio Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Time Mag Poll I expected maybe a 4 to 6 point bounce but this comes as a surprise. If Time is reporting a double digit lead then then in truth it is more then likely a 12 - 14 point lead. Oh well, at least GWB bounced to the positive and not to the negitive like kerry. Hint to the kerry camp: If you want everyone to stop talking about vietnam, then shut the hell up about it yourself. Stop leading off each and every press conference with that topic, and maybe...just maybe it may go away. Does anyone else agree that his staff needs to be overhauled?
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Time Mag PollI expected maybe a 4 to 6 point bounce but this comes as a surprise. If Time is reporting a double digit lead then then in truth it is more then likely a 12 - 14 point lead. Oh well, at least GWB bounced to the positive and not to the negitive like kerry. Hint to the kerry camp: If you want everyone to stop talking about vietnam, then shut the hell up about it yourself. Stop leading off each and every press conference with that topic, and maybe...just maybe it may go away. Does anyone else agree that his staff needs to be overhauled? 17707[/snapback] That actually reinforces something I've been saying for a long while: the administration's biggest problem is their near-complete inability to market themselves. From what I saw of the convention, this is the first time the administration has overcome that problem and presented a clear, unambiguous message...and it's showing in the polls. Now if Bush and his people can keep that up (which I doubt), and Kerry and his people ever pull their heads out of their collective ass (which I seriously doubt), we might just have a race that's only mildly nauseating.
Alaska Darin Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 That actually reinforces something I've been saying for a long while: the administration's biggest problem is their near-complete inability to market themselves. From what I saw of the convention, this is the first time the administration has overcome that problem and presented a clear, unambiguous message...and it's showing in the polls. Now if Bush and his people can keep that up (which I doubt), and Kerry and his people ever pull their heads out of their collective ass (which I seriously doubt), we might just have a race that's only mildly nauseating. 17732[/snapback] Isn't such a bump it generally expected just after the convention? Especially considering our short attention span?
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Isn't such a bump it generally expected just after the convention? Especially considering our short attention span? 17736[/snapback] Yes...but typically not so large of one, I thought. And I also think, judging by Kerry's "bump" ( ), that had the RNC not stayed on-message for once, they wouldn't have done nearly as well in the polls...
erynthered Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 That actually reinforces something I've been saying for a long while: the administration's biggest problem is their near-complete inability to market themselves. From what I saw of the convention, this is the first time the administration has overcome that problem and presented a clear, unambiguous message...and it's showing in the polls. Now if Bush and his people can keep that up (which I doubt), and Kerry and his people ever pull their heads out of their collective ass (which I seriously doubt), we might just have a race that's only mildly nauseating. 17732[/snapback] Good points Tom, The biggest thing is that the American public has a short attention span. This was how they wanted to play it out. The repub's waited, and waited , to answer or reply to all the stevestojan that the kerry camp was throwing. They're keeping it close to election time. Brillant stratergim the Dims shot their wad quite some time ago. Toast, I believe is the word.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Good points Tom, The biggest thing is that the American public has a short attention span. This was how they wanted to play it out. The repub's waited, and waited , to answer or reply to all the stevestojan that the kerry camp was throwing. They're keeping it close to election time. Brillant stratergim the Dims shot their wad quite some time ago. Toast, I believe is the word. 17776[/snapback] You mean aside from the fact that the election is two months away and all other polls says it's a dead heat?
erynthered Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 You mean aside from the fact that the election is two months away and all other polls says it's a dead heat? 17781[/snapback] The polls in Florida show we're not going to be hit by a huricane this week end. Yeah, I like polls. Have some more Kool -ai.........never mind
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 The polls in Florida show we're not going to be hit by a huricane this week end. Yeah, I like polls. Have some more Kool -ai.........never mind 17791[/snapback] He's right, though...a lot can happen in two months. Hell, ask the Spanish...a lot can happen in two days. The other polls, though...I didn't know there were any yet. The Time poll is the first I heard.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 He's right, though...a lot can happen in two months. Hell, ask the Spanish...a lot can happen in two days. The other polls, though...I didn't know there were any yet. The Time poll is the first I heard. 17793[/snapback] http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...oj77l4&refer=us It's hard enough trusting any single poll. But never ever trust a poll that has less than 1000 participants.
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...oj77l4&refer=us It's hard enough trusting any single poll. But never ever trust a poll that has less than 1000 participants. 17798[/snapback] Thanks. I hadn't realized the pool was that small. Time "forgot" to mention it...
erynthered Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Polls suck. I dont even believe the 11 point bump. The media is still going to spin this election the way they want. Kelly you've already backpeddled. My points are that the public has a short attention span, this is an advantage to the repub's right now.
IDBillzFan Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 Polls suck. I dont even believe the 11 point bump. The media is still going to spin this election the way they want. Kelly you've already backpeddled. My points are that the public has a short attention span, this is an advantage to the repub's right now. 17815[/snapback] It took us about six months to forget 9/11. How long do you think it'll take people to forget the conventions?
SilverNRed Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 It took us about six months to forget 9/11. How long do you think it'll take people to forget the conventions? 17887[/snapback] Dunno. But I was wondering, does anyone know where they're having the conventions this year? And when?
erynthered Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 It took us about six months to forget 9/11. How long do you think it'll take people to forget the conventions? 17887[/snapback] Whats next is choreographed debates. These guy's will know pretty much all the Q's. They could still be the deal maker though.
billfan63 Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 Time Mag PollI expected maybe a 4 to 6 point bounce but this comes as a surprise. If Time is reporting a double digit lead then then in truth it is more then likely a 12 - 14 point lead. Oh well, at least GWB bounced to the positive and not to the negitive like kerry. Hint to the kerry camp: If you want everyone to stop talking about vietnam, then shut the hell up about it yourself. Stop leading off each and every press conference with that topic, and maybe...just maybe it may go away. Does anyone else agree that his staff needs to be overhauled? 17707[/snapback] Is that 12-14 point lead calculated with that fuzzy math of yours? 144=150
/dev/null Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 Especially considering our short attention span? 17736[/snapback] what were we talking about? Hey, where'd the Bush twins go?
Rich in Ohio Posted September 4, 2004 Author Posted September 4, 2004 Newsweek came out today with a new pol that shows GWB way ahead of kerry by 54% to 43%. A whopping 11 point lead. That basically translates into an 11 point bump when you consider they were even going into the RNC. Can you say ass whippin???
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