boyst Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 So, no. I couldn't perform at their skill level simplybbecause I don't have it. The question was posed as vejbg able to handle it. That I could do. May not win every race. But I'd finish every one of them So, no. I couldn't perform at their skill level simplybbecause I don't have it. The question was posed as vejbg able to handle it. That I could do. May not win every race. But I'd finish every one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I couldn't perform at their skill level simplybbecause I don't have it. The question was posed as vejbg able to handle it. That I could do. May not win every race. But I'd finish every one of them Are you really "Spaggs" in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 yes. But not at the skill. I am the size and in the shape of one of these guys. Guess you'll just have to take my word for it. I might would maybe need 3-4 weeks to get my cardio there if anything. But I can turn out a 6 min mile no problem, run a sub 5 40, blablabla. The skill is the only thing I do not have. The ability to catch the ball like an elite player or the technique down to make a perfect 5 step drop, etc. Of course I sound like a pompous fool because this is the Internets. But a lot of what it takes to be a professional (in anything) is desire and attitude. My aptitude, my personality, my size are all built for athleticism That is quite admirable and I take your word on your size and shape. Agreed that attitude and effort counts for a lot, but don't underestimate how TRULY bone-rattling the hits from NFL players are. That would adjust the courage of most mere humans. At any rate, congratulations on being in such good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 that's a lot of scratch hard not to want to make sure you get paid its the same in every aspect of our society, take care of yourself 1st, screw the rest involved. Not everyone is that way but way too many are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 yes. But not at the skill. I am the size and in the shape of one of these guys. Guess you'll just have to take my word for it. I might would maybe need 3-4 weeks to get my cardio there if anything. But I can turn out a 6 min mile no problem, run a sub 5 40, blablabla. The skill is the only thing I do not have. The ability to catch the ball like an elite player or the technique down to make a perfect 5 step drop, etc. Of course I sound like a pompous fool because this is the Internets. But a lot of what it takes to be a professional (in anything) is desire and attitude. My aptitude, my personality, my size are all built for athleticism since this is the "Internets", I have to challenge your original claim that "But I promise you. I could perform at that level physically." What exactly does that mean? That you could keep up with the drills. I commend you for being (apparently) quite the physical specimen and in great shape, but I must say it sounds like a colossal oversimplification on your part. Desire & attitude have served me very well in my career but I could IN NO WAY equate these qualities to my performance on the playing field. Aptitude is an intellectual capacity and personality is a subjective, qualitative trait; athleticism is the physical capability to perform said tasks per sport. I think you are reaching here, and have quite the stones to boot. I am not attacking you personally, just challenging your claims & logic. Sounds like you'd blow us all out of the gym, and I tip my hat to someone of your ilk .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I could do it. That's no question. To the talent and level of play (speed, ability, etc) I could not perform as good. But I promise you. I could perform at that level physically. Is that you Leif Larson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Pretty much this^^ They are the weakest "union" (or players association) in all of sports for sure. Can you imagine what the NFL would look like if they had the MLBPA??? It would be a MUCH different world despite the national TV money. I don't know all what the owners got out of this current CBA but what they gave up regarding practices screwed their coaching staffs and the quality of play. You hire a new coaching staff and they can't officially talk to the players until April? Then there's the limited number of mandatory practices and with pads. They've made it very difficult for coaches to get their teams ready for the regular season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Not to brag or anything, but I too could physically perform at a professional level. Porn star. Well, maybe not the physical dimensions (if you know what I mean), or the stamina, or the disregard for my health, but I'm all in on banging hot chicks. I'm porn-star level when it comes to wanting to bang hot chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 that's an interesting realization that sometimes players are more interested in making money than winning. i think a lot of these incentive based contracts need to change. make them more team oriented bonuses rather than individual. all they are doing is encouraging individual performance and "me first" types of players That's a realization? What? Where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 since this is the "Internets", I have to challenge your original claim that "But I promise you. I could perform at that level physically." What exactly does that mean? That you could keep up with the drills. I commend you for being (apparently) quite the physical specimen and in great shape, but I must say it sounds like a colossal oversimplification on your part. Desire & attitude have served me very well in my career but I could IN NO WAY equate these qualities to my performance on the playing field. Aptitude is an intellectual capacity and personality is a subjective, qualitative trait; athleticism is the physical capability to perform said tasks per sport. I think you are reaching here, and have quite the stones to boot. I am not attacking you personally, just challenging your claims & logic. Sounds like you'd blow us all out of the gym, and I tip my hat to someone of your ilk .... my aptitude tests have shown that I am geared toward athletic events and such. They have all my life. All the pre college tests and tests I've taken since in the professional world. I understand what you're saying but a lot of people think natural talent gets these players where they are and they can flourish on it. Its a lot more then that. Its the dedication to tear your body apart toward a 60 minute goal that gives you only pride. Guys like Vince Young or Ryan Leaf have all the talent in the world but lack in some capacities that kept them from being elite in the NFL. Those guys didn't have it mentally, emotionally or such. It takes a lot to drag your butt in to the gym twice a day to workout. I do it now but only for fun and because I am a better person for doing it. Other guys like Terrel Davis or Lee Evans had their body run out on them before their tread was gone. They couldn't keep up. It happens. Maybe it was a bit pyshosamotic (sp?) But it takes a lot more then just talent to keep going. Tucker displayed that in his statement. Its burying thru setbacks to obtain a goal whether personal or collective. I am not in the shape I was as a teen but I am probably still in better shape then most people my age. The rest is mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 that's a lot of scratch hard not to want to make sure you get paid its the same in every aspect of our society, take care of yourself 1st, screw the rest involved. Not everyone is that way but way too many are. Considering the damage done from all the physicality which will affect the rest of your life after football I don't blame any pro athlete wanting to get paid. I don't think the incentive laden contracts are going away either because it's a hell of a risk for any NFL club to give a player a fat contract and assume he will give it his all if he's paid the same amount regardless of effort. Jamarcus Russel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That is quite admirable and I take your word on your size and shape. Agreed that attitude and effort counts for a lot, but don't underestimate how TRULY bone-rattling the hits from NFL players are. That would adjust the courage of most mere humans. At any rate, congratulations on being in such good shape. the thing about NFL players people forget is they are mortal just like everyone else. If you stand beside Wes Walker you'd never know he was a professional athlete. If you stood beside a lot of these guys you'd just think they're another big jock type. Few display the freakish size and figure that shows they are professional (such as Mario Williams). The hits are force meets force. Its not always going to feel good but ya just learn to take'm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I don't know all what the owners got out of this current CBA but what they gave up regarding practices screwed their coaching staffs and the quality of play. You hire a new coaching staff and they can't officially talk to the players until April? Then there's the limited number of mandatory practices and with pads. They've made it very difficult for coaches to get their teams ready for the regular season The owners have been destroying the players in negotiations for years. For every little concession that they make (how hard practices are) they make up for it 10 times over. They don't even owe the players the amount of money in their contracts!! That is insane. "We agree to pay you $54 million dollars over 6 years but we promise that you will get $28M of that. We really don't know about the rest of the money that you are being offered in this legal document. That kind of depends." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 my aptitude tests have shown that I am geared toward athletic events and such. They have all my life. All the pre college tests and tests I've taken since in the professional world. I understand what you're saying but a lot of people think natural talent gets these players where they are and they can flourish on it. Its a lot more then that. Its the dedication to tear your body apart toward a 60 minute goal that gives you only pride. Guys like Vince Young or Ryan Leaf have all the talent in the world but lack in some capacities that kept them from being elite in the NFL. Those guys didn't have it mentally, emotionally or such. It takes a lot to drag your butt in to the gym twice a day to workout. I do it now but only for fun and because I am a better person for doing it. Other guys like Terrel Davis or Lee Evans had their body run out on them before their tread was gone. They couldn't keep up. It happens. Maybe it was a bit pyshosamotic (sp?) But it takes a lot more then just talent to keep going. Tucker displayed that in his statement. Its burying thru setbacks to obtain a goal whether personal or collective. I am not in the shape I was as a teen but I am probably still in better shape then most people my age. The rest is mentality. At least we know you don't have the aptitude to spell, "psychosomatic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) with the 19th pick, the Cleveland Browns select jboyst... Edited April 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Not to brag or anything, but I too could physically perform at a professional level. Porn star. Well, maybe not the physical dimensions (if you know what I mean), or the stamina, or the disregard for my health, but I'm all in on banging hot chicks. I'm porn-star level when it comes to wanting to bang hot chicks. ...so, you're not then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) ...so, you're not then. Obviously, you do not understand the concept of "pyshosamotic". ....and another thing: I get harder than Japanese arithmetic. THAT'S porn star-level stuff. Edited April 10, 2015 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I sound like a pompous fool Well, there's something that can be universally agreed upon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 my aptitude tests have shown that I am geared toward athletic events and such. They have all my life. All the pre college tests and tests I've taken since in the professional world. I understand what you're saying but a lot of people think natural talent gets these players where they are and they can flourish on it. Its a lot more then that. Its the dedication to tear your body apart toward a 60 minute goal that gives you only pride. Guys like Vince Young or Ryan Leaf have all the talent in the world but lack in some capacities that kept them from being elite in the NFL. Those guys didn't have it mentally, emotionally or such. It takes a lot to drag your butt in to the gym twice a day to workout. I do it now but only for fun and because I am a better person for doing it. Other guys like Terrel Davis or Lee Evans had their body run out on them before their tread was gone. They couldn't keep up. It happens. Maybe it was a bit pyshosamotic (sp?) But it takes a lot more then just talent to keep going. Tucker displayed that in his statement. Its burying thru setbacks to obtain a goal whether personal or collective. I am not in the shape I was as a teen but I am probably still in better shape then most people my age. The rest is mentality. again, II'm not trying to challenge you but I am really curious about the aptitude tests you refer to - are they a specific standardized test? I have never heard of such an aptitude test which proved you have been geared toward athletic events. The only aptitude tests I'm aware of are college entrance exams and IQ tests. So, if you'll indulge me, I'd love to research the type of testing you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 again, II'm not trying to challenge you but I am really curious about the aptitude tests you refer to - are they a specific standardized test? I have never heard of such an aptitude test which proved you have been geared toward athletic events. The only aptitude tests I'm aware of are college entrance exams and IQ tests. So, if you'll indulge me, I'd love to research the type of testing you mentioned. the myers Briggs test is somewhat used for this. I took tests in junior high, high school and then my sophomore year in college. The first two were the same. The one in college was similar but not the same. Each was not the same and they were about 100-150 questions which broke down your personality and characteristics. All 3 times it said sports/athletics whatever. It was rare to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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