Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/nfl-announces-hiring-of-sarah-thomas-as-full-time-official/ Good for them CBF Edited April 8, 2015 by Canadian Bills Fan
KingRex Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/nfl-announces-hiring-of-sarah-thomas-as-full-time-official/ Good for them CBF +1 as hiring more women is a pretty clear route to improving referee talent. IF (there is a question of how big of an IF this is as competency does not appear to be the biggest factor in the good ol boy NFL world) then adding women to the talent pool means that the first hires will be the most competent women and the first fires will be the least competent men. Just as was the case when the NFL had zero or near zero HCs or QBs of African-American descent, the first hires will be the Tony Dungy's and Doug Williams' and the first fires will be the Ryan Leafs and Doug Marrones. Are there women capable of not blowing the call on the opening coin toss as NFL ref Phil Luckett did on a nationally televised game a couple of years ago? Hiring the best women refs is one of the quickest ways the NFL can improve their talent pool!
RyanC883 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 where do these new officials generally come from? I'm guessing college football, but there is no mention of their background.
dwight in philly Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) was she hired because she is a woman? does she have the background, the cred? is she this year's version of michael sam and the NFL trying to be PC? (also, walt coleman's son hired!!!!!!!!!, it never ends) Edited April 8, 2015 by dwight in philly
DC Greg Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 +1 as hiring more women is a pretty clear route to improving referee talent. IF (there is a question of how big of an IF this is as competency does not appear to be the biggest factor in the good ol boy NFL world) then adding women to the talent pool means that the first hires will be the most competent women and the first fires will be the least competent men. Just as was the case when the NFL had zero or near zero HCs or QBs of African-American descent, the first hires will be the Tony Dungy's and Doug Williams' and the first fires will be the Ryan Leafs and Doug Marrones. Are there women capable of not blowing the call on the opening coin toss as NFL ref Phil Luckett did on a nationally televised game a couple of years ago? Hiring the best women refs is one of the quickest ways the NFL can improve their talent pool! I wouldn't necessarily bet on that happening. Some of the worst have the most seniority and are just abysmal (see Hochuli, Ed)
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Hmm, a lot of domestic violence cases in the NFL. What would be great PR?
kota Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 not sure why this is a big deal. Sexism and Racism will not go away as long as this kind of attention is brought to it.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 not sure why this is a big deal. Sexism and Racism will not go away as long as this kind of attention is brought to it. Somewhat agree. Still, it is groundbreaking. I just wish it wasn't so obvious what the NFL is trying to do.
KingRex Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 not sure why this is a big deal. Sexism and Racism will not go away as long as this kind of attention is brought to it. Are you arguing that sexism and racism are thus more likely to go away if we would simply just ignore these issues? Boy, we could have saved John Lewis a few concussions if he and MLK had simply understood that walking across the Edmund Pettus bridge was the worst thing they could do to call for equal rights for blacks.
Luxy312 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 The NFL handled this EXACTLY how they should have handled it. They announced the hiring of 9 new first year officials which included her. They didn't make it into a media spectacle. I'll be most interested in the player response on the field. I imagine some will be sexist a-holes. As long as she does a good job, good for the NFL.
CardinalScotts Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) can't be worse than the Walt brothers Coleman and Anderson or Patriots bring along ref Bill Leavy....I know she wont be the head official but it's over due to weed out the 30 year vets 70 years old trying to run with 22 world class athletes Edited April 8, 2015 by CardinalScotts
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 As long as she doesn't power trip like female police officers this is cool.
Dirtbag Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 not sure why this is a big deal. Sexism and Racism will not go away as long as this kind of attention is brought to it. what's wrong with being sexy?
Mr. WEO Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 what's wrong with being sexy? "Sex-IST"! The Black Album!!
FireChan Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Are you arguing that sexism and racism are thus more likely to go away if we would simply just ignore these issues? Boy, we could have saved John Lewis a few concussions if he and MLK had simply understood that walking across the Edmund Pettus bridge was the worst thing they could do to call for equal rights for blacks. The fact that a move like this is positive PR sorta demonstrates that it's unnecessary. +1 as hiring more women is a pretty clear route to improving referee talent. IF (there is a question of how big of an IF this is as competency does not appear to be the biggest factor in the good ol boy NFL world) then adding women to the talent pool means that the first hires will be the most competent women and the first fires will be the least competent men. Just as was the case when the NFL had zero or near zero HCs or QBs of African-American descent, the first hires will be the Tony Dungy's and Doug Williams' and the first fires will be the Ryan Leafs and Doug Marrones. Are there women capable of not blowing the call on the opening coin toss as NFL ref Phil Luckett did on a nationally televised game a couple of years ago? Hiring the best women refs is one of the quickest ways the NFL can improve their talent pool! What...
Beef Jerky Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Somewhat agree. Still, it is groundbreaking. I just wish it wasn't so obvious what the NFL is trying to do. What are you talking about? She had to work her way into the NFL like every other ref...
Leroi Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Just a matter of time before the players are wearing flags and the refs g-strings. I'm sure she'll be "influenced" just like the other refs. Imo
87168 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) was she hired because she is a woman? does she have the background, the cred? is she this year's version of michael sam and the NFL trying to be PC? (also, walt coleman's son hired!!!!!!!!!, it never ends) no they just hired the first woman they saw walking out of the hair salon. seriously? Somewhat agree. Still, it is groundbreaking. I just wish it wasn't so obvious what the NFL is trying to do. you mean break down barriers? yea I wish it weren't so obvious either. ....i just don't get the cynicism. Edited April 8, 2015 by 87168
dubs Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 not sure why this is a big deal. Sexism and Racism will not go away as long as this kind of attention is brought to it. Winner Winner! Chicken Dinner!!
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