Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/07/rand-paul-set-to-announce-presidential-run/?hpid=z1 Will he end all federal health care on his first day, lol? What an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/07/rand-paul-set-to-announce-presidential-run/?hpid=z1 Will he end all federal health care on his first day, lol? What an idiot What is Federal Health Care?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 What is Federal Health Care?? What do you think? Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 What do you think? Duh What do I think? It's a term you made up. The government doesn't offer health care. Luckily that's still part of the private sector........for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 What do I think? It's a term you made up. The government doesn't offer health care. Luckily that's still part of the private sector........for now. The government doesn't cover health care for people? What an idiot you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The government doesn't cover health care for people? What an idiot you are Who said anything about covering health care. Once again words have meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Who said anything about covering health care. Once again words have meaning. Obfuscating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/07/rand-paul-set-to-announce-presidential-run/?hpid=z1 Will he end all federal health care on his first day, lol? What an idiot Yes idiotic to wrest control of something from the feds. They do such a great job like with Social Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yes idiotic to wrest control of something from the feds. They do such a great job like with Social Security. Soc Security works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Soc Security works great Well, it's 23 trillion underfunded. So either huge cuts in benefits have to happen or a huge rise in payroll tax which I'm sure your good with but in reality, like all taxes, hurts businesses and the public. Doesn't sound like it's working great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Well, it's 23 trillion underfunded. So either huge cuts in benefits have to happen or a huge rise in payroll tax which I'm sure your good with but in reality, like all taxes, hurts businesses and the public. Doesn't sound like it's working great to me. Increased immigration will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Increased immigration will help How? Also, you said that it was "working great". Clearly it isn't. Edited April 7, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Increased immigration will help Isn't the national debt a pretty good indicator of federal government ineffectiveness? And the only solution their collective business, managerial and administrative acumen can come up with is either print money or raise taxes. They are incapable of running anything because it's not their money and they are not motivated because they can never(at least their perception is,) they can never go broke and they can never lose a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Obfuscating!! It's not obfuscating to ask you what the !@#$ you're talking about. Increased immigration will help I'm increasingly convinced that your understanding of how the world works doesn't go beyond "magical pixies make it happen!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) How? Also, you said that it was "working great". Clearly it isn't. Increased immigration as the proposals that have been laid out would help. The average age of the immigrants that would fall under the proposed legislation is around 40. Which means they would be paying into the pot for a number of years before they could draw into it. Also, and not withstanding is that the proposal laid out would compel these individuals to pay into S.S for a minimum of 10 years before they could draw funds from retirement funds. You can read about it here That is a bit lengthy, you can also read a more brief synopsis right here. Gator may be wrong about a lot of things, but not on this issue, not if he's talking about the proposed immigration legislation that was passed by the Senate. Edited April 7, 2015 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Increased immigration as the proposals that have been laid out would help. The average age of the immigrants that would fall under the proposed legislation is around 40. Which means they would be paying into the pot for a number of years before they could draw into it. Also, and not withstanding is that the proposal laid out would compel these individuals to pay into S.S for a minimum of 10 years before they could draw funds from retirement funds. You can read about it here That is a bit lengthy, you can also read a more brief synopsis right here. Gator may be wrong about a lot of things, but not on this issue, not if he's talking about the proposed immigration legislation that was passed by the Senate. It doesn't help, at all, when the overwhelming majority of recipients have paid in less that they will receive. At that point, it's become nothing more than another entitlement, and the funding and long term viability becomes further undermined. The Senate's proposal patches the system for the very short term, but serves to do nothing more than kick the can a bit further down the road, and further exacerbate the long term problems. Edited April 7, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 PETER SUDERMAN: 5 Things To Know About Rand Paul’s Campaign for President. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Increased immigration will help Uh, no. Adding 1 person does not add 1 job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 It's not obfuscating to ask you what the !@#$ you're talking about. I'm increasingly convinced that your understanding of how the world works doesn't go beyond "magical pixies make it happen!" He was asking gotcha questions, that's obfuscating for sure. You are a total idiot, and you are wrong It doesn't help, at all, when the overwhelming majority of recipients have paid in less that they will receive. At that point, it's become nothing more than another entitlement, and the funding and long term viability becomes further undermined. The Senate's proposal patches the system for the very short term, but serves to do nothing more than kick the can a bit further down the road, and further exacerbate the long term problems. No, their children will also pay into the system, helping out a lot Uh, no. Adding 1 person does not add 1 job. Depends, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 No, their children will also pay into the system, helping out a lot What is the mean adult income of first generation third world immigrants who arrived here as impoverished children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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