Kirby Jackson Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 they have Brady...I know. They shouldn't have won last year with Wilfork, Browner, Vereen and Revis. They are still very good but certainly not as good.
3rdand12 Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 I hate to say this , but Hoodie gets more from less. Glad to see the oddsmakers showing some love to the Bills. Feels a little weird honestly
Kirby Jackson Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 I hate to say this , but Hoodie gets more from less. Glad to see the oddsmakers showing some love to the Bills. Feels a little weird honestly No doubt. The point that I was trying to make is if the odds makers believe that everyone around New England got better (which they clearly believe) and New England got worse (as they did) why are their odds the same? I guess the point is that they were a better bet at 7-1 last month than they are now.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 All about the QB.At least that's what bettors believe. And that's what drives these odds.
3rdand12 Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) No doubt. The point that I was trying to make is if the odds makers believe that everyone around New England got better (which they clearly believe) and New England got worse (as they did) why are their odds the same? I guess the point is that they were a better bet at 7-1 last month than they are now. Maybe because the Patriots are really built around two entities. Bill and Brady. The rest is just a surrounding cast of replaceable characters. But to your point , its not solid math to increase someones likelihood ( Bills) and not decrease the Patriots. Because the road to the SB has to go through NE. If we have a better chance then surely theirs decreases? Edited April 4, 2015 by 3rdand12
billsfan89 Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Sounds about right. Fringe playoff team. A bona fide franchise QB would really make them a favorite. Unless they had a QB on a rookie deal they wouldn't have the same roster if they were paying 20+ million to a QB. It would be very hard to pay the big bucks along the D-line and at other positions if the team had to have a huge cap hit from a franchise QB. So everything is relative.
BarleyNY Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 I think if the Bills had a legitimate QB they would be THE favorite to win the Super Bowl. I really believe they have as good a roster as anyone in the NFL sans the QB position. I am also really drinking the 'we could get Philip Rivers' kool aid. At least next year. I think with their current QB situation they are exactly what you and this article says- fringe playoff team, around the 12th best team in the league. Rivers would definitely put this team in the hunt for a Super Bowl. I think we'd be one of the favorites. It would be nice to have even one playoff win this season to get the team some experience in that respect. Unless they had a QB on a rookie deal they wouldn't have the same roster if they were paying 20+ million to a QB. It would be very hard to pay the big bucks along the D-line and at other positions if the team had to have a huge cap hit from a franchise QB. So everything is relative. Teams have to find value somewhere. Maybe for the Bills it's drafting a QB. Maybe it's drafting other positions this season and next, changing out some highly paid players and signing someone like Rivers (next offseason). Or doing that and trading for a different QB.
HOUSE Posted April 5, 2015 Author Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Rivers would definitely put this team in the hunt for a Super Bowl. I think we'd be one of the favorites. It would be nice to have even one playoff win this season to get the team some experience in that respect. Teams have to find value somewhere. Maybe for the Bills it's drafting a QB. Maybe it's drafting other positions this season and next, changing out some highly paid players and signing someone like Rivers (next offseason). Or doing that and trading for a different QB. Rivers sucks......sorry, I couldn't resist Edited April 5, 2015 by HOUSE
maddenboy Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 i think the Colts have won the offseason so far. Only because they were already a contender and added about as much as we did. Bills are 2nd.
eball Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 All about the QB. I thought it was all about that bass? No doubt. The point that I was trying to make is if the odds makers believe that everyone around New England got better (which they clearly believe) and New England got worse (as they did) why are their odds the same? I guess the point is that they were a better bet at 7-1 last month than they are now. Maybe because the Patriots are really built around two entities. Bill and Brady. The rest is just a surrounding cast of replaceable characters. But to your point , its not solid math to increase someones likelihood ( Bills) and not decrease the Patriots. Because the road to the SB has to go through NE. If we have a better chance then surely theirs decreases? This isn't really about a team's "chance" to win the Super Bowl -- it's a betting line. The Pats* are who they are, which is why their odds didn't move. The rest of the teams are simply shuffling around and changing positions in the oddsmakers' eyes. Buffalo's moves have been significant enough to show oddsmakers that more bettors are likely to take a flyer on the Bills.
3rdand12 Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 I thought it was all about that bass? This isn't really about a team's "chance" to win the Super Bowl -- it's a betting line. The Pats* are who they are, which is why their odds didn't move. The rest of the teams are simply shuffling around and changing positions in the oddsmakers' eyes. Buffalo's moves have been significant enough to show oddsmakers that more bettors are likely to take a flyer on the Bills. ^^ Oh It Is
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