I hope Cordy Glenn doesn't follow the Bills on Twitter

[NoSaint]

I think this LG/LT debate is much ado about nothing. He should be played at whatever position gives the team the best chance to win. He will be paid according to how much a team believes he can help them win. If he's a good LT but an elite LG he'll command about the same either way.

 

 

 

LMO

The top 17 left tackles are at 7m per year or more that means a below average pay LT gets 7m per right now.

 

The top 4 left guards are 7m+.

 

The #1 left guard would be tie the 10th left tackle on average pay. Just a little bit of quantifying the gap.

[Rob's House]

The top 17 left tackles are at 7m per year or more that means a below average pay LT gets 7m per right now.

 

The top 4 left guards are 7m+.

 

The #1 left guard would be tie the 10th left tackle on average pay. Just a little bit of quantifying the gap.

I don't think that's contrary to my statement. His abilities at LT are fairly quantifiable. If his value at LG meets or exceeds that it will be the basis for his value. Otherwise he'll be paid based on his ability to play LT. If the Bills are willing to pay the greater of the two to retain him I don't think it matters much, unless of course he's out for the glory of playing LT over the glory of winning.

[NoSaint]

I don't think that's contrary to my statement. His abilities at LT are fairly quantifiable. If his value at LG meets or exceeds that it will be the basis for his value. Otherwise he'll be paid based on his ability to play LT. If the Bills are willing to pay the greater of the two to retain him I don't think it matters much, unless of course he's out for the glory of playing LT over the glory of winning.

It's not directly contrary but I think it gives a little perspective as we've seen some posts on the topic recently that have implied the gap is negligible. Essentially for us, if we think he's one of the best LG in the league, but are competing with a team that thinks he's simply a good tackle---- it can get tricky quick with regards to value. why pay him like a good LT instead of just chasing the #1 available guard who may be as talented but cheaper, for instance?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Wonder what he thinks about this

 

@buffalobills: Is @PittAthletics T.J. Clemmings the next Bills starting left tackle? #PathToTheDraft

 

READ: http://t.co/mOMm7cSLNNhttp://t.co/oQat6FvihL

 

So we have a guy who has only played a few years of football, 2 years in college exclusively at RT, and now we're tweeting he's our next starting LT?

 

I think Cordy Glenn would say "ri i i i i i i i ight."

[C.Biscuit97]

 

So we have a guy who has only played a few years of football, 2 years in college exclusively at RT, and now we're tweeting he's our next starting LT?

 

I think Cordy Glenn would say "ri i i i i i i i ight."

Every guy is better than the guy the Bills have.

 

If the Bills try to move Glenn this year, his agent will raise hell. As he should.

 

Glenn is a good LT would was hurt by bad Gs and bad coaching.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

If I'm the Bills my OL is Glenn - Incognito - Wood -? - Henderson

 

Don't screw around. Then all we need is a RG.

[GunnerBill]

I don't think that's contrary to my statement. His abilities at LT are fairly quantifiable. If his value at LG meets or exceeds that it will be the basis for his value. Otherwise he'll be paid based on his ability to play LT. If the Bills are willing to pay the greater of the two to retain him I don't think it matters much, unless of course he's out for the glory of playing LT over the glory of winning.

Whilst it might not affect this contract all that much long term for his NFL career he will be better paid as a tackle than a guard. So even if he ends up with top guard money that is commensurate to a top 10 tackle if he is thinking about down the road accepting a long term move to guard hurts his earning power.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Every guy is better than the guy the Bills have.

 

If the Bills try to move Glenn this year, his agent will raise hell. As he should.

 

Glenn is a good LT would was hurt by bad Gs and bad coaching.

 

Whoa! I agree with the 1st and last statements.

 

But WTF does his agent have to do with coaching decisions on the field for a guy under contract? That would be WAY beyond his scope.

 

If a coach has to start dealing with 53 guys AND their agents every time he makes a roster decision, we're never going to get anywhere.

 

The coaches should be thinking about "what has Glenn showed that makes you believe he would be a top run-blocking, pulling power guard?" and "who do we have that is likely to be better at LT (if anyone). Glenn's agent should not enter into it.

 

LMO of course.

[YoloinOhio]

 

Whoa! I agree with the 1st and last statements.

 

But WTF does his agent have to do with coaching decisions on the field for a guy under contract? That would be WAY beyond his scope.

 

If a coach has to start dealing with 53 guys AND their agents every time he makes a roster decision, we're never going to get anywhere.

 

The coaches should be thinking about "what has Glenn showed that makes you believe he would be a top run-blocking, pulling power guard?" and "who do we have that is likely to be better at LT (if anyone). Glenn's agent should not enter into it.

 

LMO of course.

i think the agents do get involved, but usually only if the player wants him to do so. But the coach doesnt have to deal with the agents if that happens. the GM does. So If Rex Roman wants to move him to guard, whaley is probably involved in that decision at least to some degree. Edited April 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[C.Biscuit97]

 

Whoa! I agree with the 1st and last statements.

 

But WTF does his agent have to do with coaching decisions on the field for a guy under contract? That would be WAY beyond his scope.

 

If a coach has to start dealing with 53 guys AND their agents every time he makes a roster decision, we're never going to get anywhere.

 

The coaches should be thinking about "what has Glenn showed that makes you believe he would be a top run-blocking, pulling power guard?" and "who do we have that is likely to be better at LT (if anyone). Glenn's agent should not enter into it.

 

LMO of course.

I agree the coach can't be concerned with this stuff. But you have to look at it from the agent's point of view. After Glenn proved the draft "experts" completely wrong and became a very good LT under Gailey, he has spent his whole career at the big money position of LT. To move him to G in a contract year would hurt him big time financially.

[NoSaint]

 

Whoa! I agree with the 1st and last statements.

 

But WTF does his agent have to do with coaching decisions on the field for a guy under contract? That would be WAY beyond his scope.

 

If a coach has to start dealing with 53 guys AND their agents every time he makes a roster decision, we're never going to get anywhere.

 

The coaches should be thinking about "what has Glenn showed that makes you believe he would be a top run-blocking, pulling power guard?" and "who do we have that is likely to be better at LT (if anyone). Glenn's agent should not enter into it.

 

LMO of course.

of course the agent would have an interest, and perhaps obligation, to stick up for his clients best interests with the team. Why would you ever expect otherwise?

[yungmack]

Whether or not Glenn's agent would get involved if he was kicked inside, Glenn himself is likely to be a very pissed off guy. Would you want to start the Rex Regime with a sullen, angry or holding-out player of Glenn's caliber? And on top of that, it would be extremely idiotic to move one of the better LTs in the league and replace him with a sophomore player who was, at best, adequate at RT.