BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You must have me confused with another member. I said "expect" EJ to be cut along with an "in my opinion". Go back and comprehend get a grasp on the situation before responding. Thanks gun. Imo whats funny is there are many who criticize those who criticized your EJ will be cut post that are taking that as a prediction as well and with as much credence as your Rex Will be hired in 24 hours prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Fred was hurt and only played 10 games in 2012, he played 4 more games in 2014. You can't discard him being injured in 2012 then use it for an excuse in 2014 especially seeing he played four more games in 2014 than 2012. Using 1.8 yards a game increase, as an improvement is weak. That darn Marrone, Woods didn't double his TD totals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 EJ is working out when he should be working out. That's about all there is to this video. Doesn't mean he will improve or regress the season. Does every thread about him really need to turn into 20 pages of the same argument? Once TC starts, or should I say ends, the real bullets will be flying when all the "EJ is the starter!" or "EJ isn't the starter!" threads show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 That darn Marrone, Woods didn't double his TD totals! Sometimes even bad coaching can't counteract the natural improvements that some players make in their first few seasons in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Does every thread about him really need to turn into 20 pages of the same argument? You new to the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You new to the internet? Thank you for putting this thread out of its misery. /end thread. Go play with your kids or something. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sometimes even bad coaching can't counteract the natural improvements that some players make in their first few seasons in the NFL. Players don't always improve season to season. The phrase "sophomore slump" exists for a reason. Good thing Marrone was here to help Woods beat that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Players don't always improve season to season..... That's why I said "some players". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 That's why I said "some players". So why would you assume that Woods would have improved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So why would you assume that Woods would have improved? I'm just messing with you. IMO both sides to the argument you are in seem locked in hyperbole and the truth likely lies somewhere inbetween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm just messing with you. IMO both sides to the argument you are in seem locked in hyperbole and the truth likely lies somewhere inbetween. I agree, but my side is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I agree, but my side is right. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 EJ's faults may be correctible. Look for him to compete for the starting job. imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 If EJ turns it around, this team will be tough as nails to beat. I still think he should have started game 16. He wants it, he just can't put the ball in a place where the WRs get clobbered. The WRs quit on him, probably justifiably, heck, Goodwin was nothing the rest of the year after he got walloped. Winning them back will be EJs biggest hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 EJ Manuel, drafted as a project with only 14 career starts. It's still early to pull the plug on said project, even less so when he will have (and his teammates) a creative OC calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 marrone and hackett had a successful collegiate offense that they thought was portable to the pros.. they needed a project QB to step up and rescue their offense, and EJ wasn't up to it.. they failed him as much as he failed them. hopefully, the experience has put some hard bark on the kid, and he's ready to take command. he has all the tools to run this O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You new to the internet? Yea. Still trying to figure out how to work the googles on the internet machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You must have me confused with another member. I said "expect" EJ to be cut along with an "in my opinion". Go back and comprehend get a grasp on the situation before responding. Thanks gun. Imo No, really, you didn't. I think I grasp the situation just fine. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Want to know the name of a former NFL QB who had the same amount of TDs (19) and Win/Loss record (6-8) as EJ Manuel after first 14 starts?Joe Montana Here is Montana's first 14 starts. Year Team Cmp Att Yds TD Int W/L 1980 Rams 21 37 252 2 2 L Bucks 24 31 200 1 1 L Giants 9 15 151 1 2 W Patriots 14 23 123 3 1 W Saints 24 38 285 2 0 W Falcons 25 41 222 1 2 L Bills 25 36 263 1 0 L 1981 Lions 18 28 195 1 1 L Bears 20 32 287 3 0 W Falcons 24 34 274 2 2 L Saints 16 22 175 1 1 W Skins 15 28 193 0 1 W Cowboys 19 29 279 2 0 W Packers 23 32 220 0 0 W Montana's team went 8 and 6 not 6 and 8. Over his first 14 starts he had 20 TD's and 13 int's and a completion percentage of 65%. Manuel had 16 TD's and 12 int's (you only get 19 for Manuel if you include the 3 he ran for) and a completion percentage of 58.6%. Montana's QB rating for his first 14 games was 89.7, the league average in 1980 and 1981 was just under 75. OTOH, Manuel's QB rating over his first 14 games is 78.5 while the league average was over 91 for 2013 and over 90 for 2014. The only obvious conclusion is Montana preformed well above average in his first 14 games while Manuel was well below average for his first 14 games. A pill that seems hard to swallow for some people. Anybody that is more than a casual fan knows the rules have become more favorable for passing over the last 35 years which can be seen in the increasing average QB rating over time. It is silly to compare QB's from different eras without taking into account the historical changes to the game. How funny is that stat considering all of the hyperbole regarding how horrible EJ is. Not nearly as funny as someone who compares a QB from the early 80's to a present day QB without including how each QB performed in relation to their peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 This tells me he is going to the pro bowl this year. For certain I love when the EJ haters come out in troves. EJ Manuel, drafted as a project with only 14 career starts. It's still early to pull the plug on said project, even less so when he will have (and his teammates) a creative OC calling the shots. Hey now, quit submitting a post that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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