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Yeah and you also heard the Bills were going to make the playoffs this year. :rolleyes:

 

Well, true. And like with the X-Files, I wanted to believe.

 

I liked it. Who expects a show that ended 13-14 years ago to start up again with a bang? I liked that they took their time bringing the characters back in, giving us a look at what they've been doing these past few years. I was glad to see Skinner was in it, and the final scene made the buildup completely worthwhile. I'm looking forward to seeing more.

 

Agreed! My criticisms aside, it's good to have the show back. I hope they continue to make little seasons like this one for a bit. I'm not sure if they will or not, but I hope.

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All I heard before the premier was that the first episode was the slowest / weakest and the season really gets awesome around episode 3, so going into last night I wasn't expecting all that much. That said, I thought last night's episode was a pretty good way to relaunch the show. It gave us a quick recap of the history, the relationships, and how Mulder and Scully have changed since we last saw them a decade ago. When the opening music came on, I admit I got goosebumps.

 

The episode itself had its ups and downs. It felt as if 15 minutes were chopped out of the pilot somewhere along the line. The turn between Mulder laying out the nuts and bolts of the "new" conspiracy (more on that in a second) and Sveta going to the press saying Tad O'Mally was paying her to fabricate UFO stories happened so fast it felt like we were missing a scene between. I had the same feeling between when Sveta told Mulder about her MILAB experiences and he called Scully to proclaim they had been duped this whole time. It just seemed so rushed, and that resulted in some really clunky dialogue in spots.

 

As for the conspiracy itself I thought they did an okay job of rebooting the show's main through line which had become overly complicated and muddled through the movie and last few seasons of the original show. This "new" conspiracy takes a lot (and I mean a LOT) from Richard Dolan's work about breakaway civilizations while sprinkling in illuminati / cabal control conspiracies on top. I have no problem buying into this new conspiracy (in a fictional, suspension of my disbelief kind of way) for the show but I had a hard time buying that Mulder would react as if this were new. These theories have been around for two decades, and while I get that not everyone has heard of this stuff, Mulder would have been immersed in it. Nothing Sveta said was new, people have been talking about MILAB (short for military abductions rather than alien abductions) since the 80s. And I'm not sure why Tad O'Mally's show suddenly folded up shop at the end of the pilot just because Sveta turned, the show made it seem like he was keeping Sveta hidden until this point so I'm not sure why her coming out against him would sink his show, or how she knew (or how they knew) where the ARV was being kept that they blew up.

 

Those nitpicky points aside, I'm glad to have the show back. It was fun seeing the team back together and tonight's episode is supposed to be better than the premier. Here's to hoping.

Because Tad O'Mally (like Roswell) was a smokescreen.

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All I heard before the premier was that the first episode was the slowest / weakest and the season really gets awesome around episode 3, so going into last night I wasn't expecting all that much. That said, I thought last night's episode was a pretty good way to relaunch the show. It gave us a quick recap of the history, the relationships, and how Mulder and Scully have changed since we last saw them a decade ago. When the opening music came on, I admit I got goosebumps.

 

The episode itself had its ups and downs. It felt as if 15 minutes were chopped out of the pilot somewhere along the line. The turn between Mulder laying out the nuts and bolts of the "new" conspiracy (more on that in a second) and Sveta going to the press saying Tad O'Mally was paying her to fabricate UFO stories happened so fast it felt like we were missing a scene between. I had the same feeling between when Sveta told Mulder about her MILAB experiences and he called Scully to proclaim they had been duped this whole time. It just seemed so rushed, and that resulted in some really clunky dialogue in spots.

 

As for the conspiracy itself I thought they did an okay job of rebooting the show's main through line which had become overly complicated and muddled through the movie and last few seasons of the original show. This "new" conspiracy takes a lot (and I mean a LOT) from Richard Dolan's work about breakaway civilizations while sprinkling in illuminati / cabal control conspiracies on top. I have no problem buying into this new conspiracy (in a fictional, suspension of my disbelief kind of way) for the show but I had a hard time buying that Mulder would react as if this were new. These theories have been around for two decades, and while I get that not everyone has heard of this stuff, Mulder would have been immersed in it. Nothing Sveta said was new, people have been talking about MILAB (short for military abductions rather than alien abductions) since the 80s. And I'm not sure why Tad O'Mally's show suddenly folded up shop at the end of the pilot just because Sveta turned, the show made it seem like he was keeping Sveta hidden until this point so I'm not sure why her coming out against him would sink his show, or how she knew (or how they knew) where the ARV was being kept that they blew up.

 

Those nitpicky points aside, I'm glad to have the show back. It was fun seeing the team back together and tonight's episode is supposed to be better than the premier. Here's to hoping.

 

 

 

I did not pick up the vibe they were trying to make conservatives look bad (though I may have missed it), if anything I took it that there are no political sides when it boils down to it. There's no conservative or liberal, that's the side show to keep the masses distracted and pointing fingers at the wrong people. The real conspiracy Mulder laid out was essentially a rehashing of the illuminati (or whatever you want to call it) theories which have been floating around forever. The idea being the illuminati / cabal have been keeping alien technology secret from the rest of the world since the '40s in order to secure their own power base and bring about the New World Order after a massive population culling event.

 

It's more corporate than political. Big defense contractors working on the behalf of these "fascist elites" who rose from the ashes of WW2 and have been silently taking over the world behind the scenes with the help of their advanced tech. Think Nazis.

 

When Tad talks about guns and government control Moulder says why would I watch this idiot, plus they make O'Malley look like he is just profiteering off his views and that he is shady and uninformed in general

DVR didn't catch the whole episode. Half hour of NFC title game :(

 

And I don't see it on Fox/DirecTV on Demand :(

 

always tape the show after the show or just add an extension

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Anyone able to catch me up to speed on the first few minutes of tonight's episode? I tuned in a little late and missed everything before when they were sitting in skinner's office talking about the classified files mulder found.

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Because Tad O'Mally (like Roswell) was a smokescreen.

 

But a smokescreen just to pull Mulder back in? I agree that he's a plant (and will be back in later episodes I'm sure), I just don't quite get what his/their end game was with Tad's show.

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When Tad talks about guns and government control Moulder says why would I watch this idiot, plus they make O'Malley look like he is just profiteering off his views and that he is shady and uninformed in general

 

 

Ah, copy.

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DVR didn't catch the whole episode. Half hour of NFC title game :(

 

And I don't see it on Fox/DirecTV on Demand :(

 

Same happened with me. See the link below.

 

Anyone able to catch me up to speed on the first few minutes of tonight's episode? I tuned in a little late and missed everything before when they were sitting in skinner's office talking about the classified files mulder found.

 

You can watch both episodes online:

 

http://www.fox.com/watch/607308867569/7756658688

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How can Dana still not believe after what happened in the first movie? It seemed like they were trying to ignore that that movie ever existed.

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How can Dana still not believe after what happened in the first movie? It seemed like they were trying to ignore that that movie ever existed.

 

She believes in quite a bit compared to where she started in the show. She definitely believes in a government conspiracy with tremendous reach (enough to hide her kid from them/it), she believes in aliens enough to test her own DNA... but I think everyone would be better off forgetting that first movie;)

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She believes in quite a bit compared to where she started in the show. She definitely believes in a government conspiracy with tremendous reach (enough to hide her kid from them/it), she believes in aliens enough to test her own DNA... but I think everyone would be better off forgetting that first movie;)

 

I loved that first movie. Wasn't a huge fan of the original series but the movie was stuff I like to see. The second movie I didn't like.

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I loved that first movie. Wasn't a huge fan of the original series but the movie was stuff I like to see. The second movie I didn't like.

 

I have to go back and watch it. For me, who loved the series, the movie was the breaking point where Carter's mythology went off the rails. They had set up a lot in the seasons prior to the movie, then once the series resumed after the movie and incorporated that mythology into it, the show became near indecipherable. Though, Dana definitely carried over the experiences from that movie into the show.

 

I agree on the second movie. That one was painful. So far both episodes that have aired were better than that second movie.

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How can Dana still not believe after what happened in the first movie? It seemed like they were trying to ignore that that movie ever existed.

So the X-Files reboot is doing the same thing to that movie what Star Wars did to Phantom Menace

 

Calling a creative mulligan

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the first episode was cool and really thought they were going to work the global conspiracy angle, which would have been a great show. But this third episode was worse than 80s TV, just plain horrible, thank God it's only 6 episodes which I'm going to grind through.

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Did not like this episode either. They only have 6 episodes. Couldn't they have made it a six part series interconnected with each other? This show was cheesy. They could have done a lot better.

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If they don't go back to the alien theme, I don't think I'm gonna watch another episode.

From what I've read, episodes 1 and 6 (finale) are part of the main alien arc

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Yeah, the 3rd episode was just silly. It made me think "has this show always been this corny and I just never realized it?"

 

Glad to see others felt that way, too. Ill finish these last 3 episodes, but hopefully they lean more towards the gov conspiracy angle instead of australian lizard men.

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Yeah, the 3rd episode was just silly. It made me think "has this show always been this corny and I just never realized it?"

 

Glad to see others felt that way, too. Ill finish these last 3 episodes, but hopefully they lean more towards the gov conspiracy angle instead of australian lizard men.

 

There was a ton of tongue-in-cheek in the original series

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