The Real Buffalo Joe Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 This is bigger than a lot of people realize. Sure it's two teams playing at a non prime hour with relatively small fanbases. But they (the NFL) want to prove to satellite/cable providers that they don't need them and that there are other options. The league and Yahoo are going to be doing everything possible to make sure this goes off without a hitch.
GG Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I believe the Superbowl was on NBC, not Yahoo. Big difference. You're right there's a difference. Who do you think has better Internet infrastructure Yahoo or NBC?
26CornerBlitz Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 6-3: FRANK SCHWAB ON NFL-LONDON YAHOO STREAM W/ JOHN MURPHY (11:17)
dave mcbride Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) You're right there's a difference. Who do you think has better Internet infrastructure Yahoo or NBC? I can't help but envision the scene of Hooli's failed livestream of an ultimate fighting championship on "Silicon Valley" from a couple of episodes ago. Goodell will play the real-life Gavin Belson. I'm not sure which compression software the NFL uses for their pre-season games but I haven't had good experiences streaming those. You have to hope, especially with how much money Yahoo is spending for these rights, that they use PiedPiper's platform. Ha - beat me to it! Edited June 4, 2015 by dave mcbride
The Avenger Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 For the past few years, I have been watching NFL games on HD through live streaming from NFL gamepass and I have not had issues with buffering...I am 10K miles away from the live game. Networks now have the capacity to deal with this. The fear would be is this might be a boon for the service providers. My local provider caps my 20 Mbps link at 80G of data per month. After that I have to pay for every bit of transmission. A 3 hour HD NFL game is around 10+ GB and that doesn't give much chance if you are playing xbox online etc. Â Â It's not the distance from the game, it's the number of systems requesting a stream. In a subscription model this can work - you know how many people are subscribed and can figure out what the demand will be (and even then people often don't project correctly and make the system too small). With this being open to the general public - anyone who has any interest in watching the game or taking part in this great "experiment" will be watching and I have a terrible feeling the back end infrastructure isn't going to handle the load. The folks who end up getting hosed are the fans like us sitting in front of their computers and watching them buffer with no other option to see the game - it'll be great.
YoloinOhio Posted June 21, 2015 Author Posted June 21, 2015 @SalSports: WSJ Report: Twitter put bid on Bills/Jags game in London: http://t.co/WVOA4ZunL3
Buftex Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 HDMI also sends audio so just the one cable would be necessary. Right...just run an HDMI chord from your laptop (or whatever device you will be using) to your 52 inch screen, and you can watch the game on your big screen with little fuss...I do it all the time with NFL Rewind.
Giaimo25 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I'll be pretty pissed if DTV Sunday ticket doesn't come through with this one, especially if I hear a commercial saying "watch every out of market game" I live on the west coast, and after getting off work at a second job at 2am, I don't see myself waking up at 6am and dinking around with my computer. If they want to stream the game, great. That's awesome for all the people who don't pay to watch every out of market game. I pay pretty good money every year for Sunday ticket and dvr, with the only reason being to watch the bills play every Sunday.
plenzmd1 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I'll be pretty pissed if DTV Sunday ticket doesn't come through with this one, especially if I hear a commercial saying "watch every out of market game" I live on the west coast, and after getting off work at a second job at 2am, I don't see myself waking up at 6am and dinking around with my computer. If they want to stream the game, great. That's awesome for all the people who don't pay to watch every out of market game. I pay pretty good money every year for Sunday ticket and dvr, with the only reason being to watch the bills play every Sunday. Ain't happening on this one....this sucker is stream only. This is a huge experiment for them, and having the option to watch on TV negates the research value. I am hoping they commit to putting a replay of the game up sometime on Sunday though....as I also DVR almost 100 % of games to watch later Sunday.
xsoldier54 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I give it until the opening kickoff before the number of viewing streams outstrips expectations and most of us get a screen that hickups, buffers, or otherwise degrades into something unwatchable. I put the chances of being able to successfully watch the entire game at less than 5%. I see this every year with fantasy football - it takes weeks for the various sites to understand they underestimated how many people would be hitting the systems and to correctly size the back end hardware to support it - I don't see TV as any different and we are the initial guinea pigs. I hope I'm wrong about this. MLB streams games every single year. I dropped the MLB extra innings package last year and now watch all my games on MLB.TV. Live streaming is not a big deal in this day and age. If the NFL can't pull this off, it is on them. The technology is in place to make this look just like any other game. If people have a smart tv, they should be able to stream directly from their computer to the TV with no problem.
nucci Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I'll be pretty pissed if DTV Sunday ticket doesn't come through with this one, especially if I hear a commercial saying "watch every out of market game" I live on the west coast, and after getting off work at a second job at 2am, I don't see myself waking up at 6am and dinking around with my computer. If they want to stream the game, great. That's awesome for all the people who don't pay to watch every out of market game. I pay pretty good money every year for Sunday ticket and dvr, with the only reason being to watch the bills play every Sunday. It's not DirecTV's call. The NFL owns the rights to the games and can do what they want. MLB streams games every single year. I dropped the MLB extra innings package last year and now watch all my games on MLB.TV. Live streaming is not a big deal in this day and age. If the NFL can't pull this off, it is on them. The technology is in place to make this look just like any other game. If people have a smart tv, they should be able to stream directly from their computer to the TV with no problem. This isn't quite the same but I watch Bills preseason games on NFL.com. Quality is excellent.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 It's not DirecTV's call. The NFL owns the rights to the games and can do what they want. This isn't quite the same but I watch Bills preseason games on NFL.com. Quality is excellent. DirecTV does use the statement 'Every out of market game' though, which may have gotten them in trouble. Isn't there a class action lawsuit about that going on right now?
plenzmd1 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 DirecTV does use the statement 'Every out of market game' though, which may have gotten them in trouble. Isn't there a class action lawsuit about that going on right now? No,that is focused on having to buy the whole package instead of just one teams games.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 No,that is focused on having to buy the whole package instead of just one teams games. Ah, thanks for the clarification. I only caught the end and assumed.
sullim4 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 You're right there's a difference. Who do you think has better Internet infrastructure Yahoo or NBC? Â Actually.... NBC hired Microsoft to do it. I know because there are folks in building 44 across the street that worked on it, and they worked their butts off to make sure nothing happened during the event. It's the same group that did the Olympics streaming for NBC - Azure Media. NBC/Comcast also has the benefit of being an ISP for a great number of Americans, meaning they can packet shape and give priority to their traffic. You won't get that with Yahoo. Â The only event I can remember Yahoo hosting online was the NCAA tournament a few years back... and that was continually buffering for me. Compression technology has come a long way since then, but I'm still skeptical.
Max997 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Has Yahoo ever streamed a live game of any kind? I know they havent streamed any live NFL games but not sure if they have any other games  either way I think this is going to be an epic fail as there is no way they will get this right the first time so I am expecting this feed to be a mess  the right way to do this would be to have them test it out on a few games maybe even in the preseason before being the only stream for a game that a lot of people will be watching since it will be the only game available Edited June 23, 2015 by Max997
CodeMonkey Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) DirecTV does use the statement 'Every out of market game' though, which may have gotten them in trouble. Isn't there a class action lawsuit about that going on right now? In the fine print on the website ...   Blackout rules and other conditions apply. NFL SUNDAY TICKET and NFL SUNDAY TICKET MAX consists of all out-of-market NFL games (based on customer’s service address) broadcast on FOX and CBS. Edited June 23, 2015 by CodeMonkey
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 When Yahoo broadcasts the Bills and Jags in London, equipment-wise and staff-wise, how will they do it? Broadcast networks have experienced play-by-play guys. They also have remote production facilities. How does a web company pull all that together out of the blue?
billstein22 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I just figured it would be the local CBS broadcast streamed through Yahoo, but I'm probably wrong.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Ray Bentley is available. I just have to hear Jagwires at least one more time.
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