FireChan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Absolutely not. The guy is damaged goods. He worthless. That's why he's still on the Redskins; because they can't get crap for him. They waited too long. Bradford fetched a first. He's still on the Skins because Snyder loves him and gave up a ton on him. They weren't willing to walk away and write those picks off as wastes.
CSBill Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 RG's problem is that he wants to do it his way. He doesnt want a coach to take the RGIII out of him. He has the problem that Vick had in the early years. I would only deal for RG if I were convinced that he had finally grown up and decided that he wanted to be a real NFL QB, and not just be RG III. RG3 has one attribute that Mike Vick never had … a brain. He had an outstanding rookie year, then an injury and the stubbornness of the Skins coaches tanked the last two. He still has way more upside than 90% of the young QBs in the NFL right now. If the Bills have a chance to get him, they should move as quickly as they possibly can. I like EJ as a person, and I think RG3 has many of the same personal qualities as EJ (the selfishness wrap is totally ungrounded), except he also has the capacity to be a very good NFL QB, EJ has the capacity to be a very average NFL QB — that's where they are different. This is a no brainer discussion: RG3 > EJ!
stinky finger Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Absolutely not. The guy is damaged goods. He worthless. That's why he's still on the Redskins; because they can't get crap for him. They waited too long. The same Browns that hired Pettine as HC and drafted John Manziel? Worthless? Really?
metzelaars_lives Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Absolutely not. The guy is damaged goods. He worthless. That's why he's still on the Redskins; because they can't get crap for him. They waited too long. The same Browns that hired Pettine as HC and drafted John Manziel? OK let's say for the sake of argument you're right. RGIII is worth a 5th round pick at best. Then what is EJ Manuel worth?
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 OK let's say for the sake of argument you're right. RGIII is worth a 5th round pick at best. Then what is EJ Manuel worth? After 13 games, it's impossible to say. But, from what I can recall, he looked good in more than half of his 13 starts.
Beerball Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 After 13 games, it's impossible to say. But, from what I can recall, he looked good in more than half of his 13 starts. Just soes I unnerstand...it's impossible to rate a player who has been in the league for 2 seasons, but, very easy to rate one who has 3? Is this the legendary Gugny line?
metzelaars_lives Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 After 13 games, it's impossible to say. But, from what I can recall, he looked good in more than half of his 13 starts. 14. And no, he most certainly did not. But regardless, you really believe that out of the 31 other NFL GM's that not one of them would trade a 4th round pick for a guy two years removed from one of the greatest rookie seasons in the history of this game that we both love so much? I think you are making this about your opinion of RGIII and it is severely clouding your judgment in terms of what other people think about him and his market value.
Beerball Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Manuel - 13 games Griffin - 37 games Quit obfuscating and answer the Medicine Hat BB Coaching question!!! Griffin 3 years. Manuel 2 years. IS THREE SEASONS THE GUGNY LINE?!?!?!?!
FireChan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Bradford fetched Foles and a second. I refuse to accept that RG3 is worth a fifth. Just no.
metzelaars_lives Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Manuel - 13 games Griffin - 37 games Yeah and in those first 16 games he played at a level so far above anything Manuel has ever even dreamed of playing. His second season, he also played at a level higher than Manuel has yet to play. You are kind of a rebel without a cause on this one. Edited March 23, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
bg17 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 This is the 8th "trade for RG3" thread started here this off season. What makes yours so...special? 9 pages and counting.
Beerball Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 9 pages and counting. don't confuse page count with quality
bg17 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 don't confuse page count with quality Many seem to be enjoying. That's the point, right?
Beerball Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Many seem to be enjoying. That's the point, right? yeah, Gugny is having the time of his life. The only thing that could make this thread worse for him would be for someone to compare Manuel to his hero Doug Flutie. If I or another mod thought the thread needed to be merged or closed we'd do it. It's ok so it goes on.
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I've done it ... so now you do it. Pick your top 10 QBs of all time and look at their stats in their first 14 games. Then compare them to EJ's. Then crawl away with your tails between your legs.
17 Josh Allen Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 ok please do the same and compare It to RG3 you will find that he ranks 1st all time in NFL history. Case closed
Beerball Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I've done it ... so now you do it. Pick your top 10 QBs of all time and look at their stats in their first 14 games. Then compare them to EJ's. Then crawl away with your tails between your legs.
Rocky Landing Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) After 13 games, it's impossible to say. But, from what I can recall, he looked good in more than half of his 13 starts. Remind me again, what is EJ good at? I've done it ... so now you do it. Pick your top 10 QBs of all time and look at their stats in their first 14 games. Then compare them to EJ's. Then crawl away with your tails between your legs. Should we include the three knee injuries in his first year as "stats?" Edited March 23, 2015 by Rocky Landing
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