Beerball Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Was EJ's name even mentioned? Yes, by the OP. No, which is why the thread title is misleading. From what I read, the article only speculates that RG3 could be traded. The OP speculates it could be for EJ. I wouldn't expect a simple player for player trade involving EJ and RG3. I assume that the title has been changed? Otherwise why all the angst? The current title certainly isn't misleading.
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Yes, by the OP. I assume that the title has been changed? Otherwise why all the angst? The current title certainly isn't misleading. It has been changed. It was worded earlier to the effect of "EJ for RG3 trade possible per ESPN," which was misleading.
Gugny Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 In 3 years RG3 has one divisional title and set a all time rookie record for Highest QB rating in the history of the NFL. Last year he had his highest competion percentage of his carrer at 68 percent http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000134287/article/robert-griffin-iii-wins-offensive-rookie-of-the-year so tell me what has EJ done. Please list his accomplishments please. He played in 9 !@#$ing games last year. Stop citing that. HE did not go to the playoffs. HE and the offense rode the running game's back to the playoffs as a TEAM. Your arguments are silly. Stop. In any format you choose ... just stop.
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 He played in 9 !@#$ing games last year. Stop citing that. HE did not go to the playoffs. HE and the offense rode the running game's back to the playoffs as a TEAM. Your arguments are silly. Stop. In any format you choose ... just stop. He rode the running game with 27 total TD's on his own? I don't think RG3 is the greatest, but don't pretend like he was Tebow with a 100 YPG rusher on the roster.
Beerball Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 It has been changed. It was worded earlier to the effect of "EJ for RG3 trade possible per ESPN," which was misleading. it was
Gugny Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 He rode the running game with 27 total TD's on his own? I don't think RG3 is the greatest, but don't pretend like he was Tebow with a 100 YPG rusher on the roster. I have acknowledged that his rookie year was stellar, stats wise. I don't consider him Tebow bad. I just don't think he's that good. I think, if he was bigger, than he could be great. But he's not big enough to survive by living off of the broken play. I like the kid. A lot. I just don't think he'll ever have another good season in the NFL. I hope I'm wrong, because I'd love for him to be successful. He's a hard worker and a good kid.
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I have acknowledged that his rookie year was stellar, stats wise. I don't consider him Tebow bad. I just don't think he's that good. I think, if he was bigger, than he could be great. But he's not big enough to survive by living off of the broken play. I like the kid. A lot. I just don't think he'll ever have another good season in the NFL. I hope I'm wrong, because I'd love for him to be successful. He's a hard worker and a good kid. Ah, got it. The other post implied differently to me.
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Ah, got it. The other post implied differently to me. You owe me an apology and a growler full of very good beer. And maybe even a hug.
ndirish1978 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 If you don't like the thread please don't comment. Its a fact that Gruden does not want RG3 as his QB and that there has been many stories in the off season he wants him gone. So where there is soke there is fire. Sort of Like the Rams saying that Bradford will not be traded and denying all reports. So now we have all sorts of report's stating that Gruden wants RG3 gone and there is no denying of the reports by the skins or Gruden. What do you think is going to happen. Then you have reporters on ESPN leaking hints that it would take a QB coming back in a trade to get it done. So why not speculate on a possible trade, its done on this forum all the time. Now all of a sudden because you don't like RG3 that I should pull the post. Dude. You can't post a thread in a forum and then ask people to be nice and engage with you on your own terms, that's ridiculous. Thread title indicates ESPN reported the Bills could trade for RG3, which is not true, so it's misleading. RG# had one good season and has pretty much proven to be a franchise killer. There are multiple reports that he is a me-first guy and not really a team player. I don't want that on my team. I wouldn't give up EJ for him. I wouldn't give up a LATE draft pick for him. No, no, no. At least with EJ we could be surprised and see some growth. Bob is a rushing QB with injured legs and has not progressed as a passer.
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Dude. You can't post a thread in a forum and then ask people to be nice and engage with you on your own terms, that's ridiculous. Thread title indicates ESPN reported the Bills could trade for RG3, which is not true, so it's misleading. RG# had one good season and has pretty much proven to be a franchise killer. There are multiple reports that he is a me-first guy and not really a team player. I don't want that on my team. I wouldn't give up EJ for him. I wouldn't give up a LATE draft pick for him. No, no, no. At least with EJ we could be surprised and see some growth. Bob is a rushing QB with injured legs and has not progressed as a passer. Can I GET .... an amen?
metzelaars_lives Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Just got back from a hike and after paging through this thread, it's pretty clear that people are arguing three different things. Some people are saying "No RGIII sucks." OK, fine. Other people are saying, "RGIII could potentially recapture what he had in his rookie year, I'd be all about getting him on our roster." Fine as well. But very few are considering what the OP actually posed: WOULD YOU TRADE EJ MANUEL FOR HIM. So the thread should really be every bit as much about Manuel as Griffin. The answer is simple: Yes, of course. You should literally have your posting rights revoked for stating otherwise. It's insane. And I am not radically pro-RGIII. There's 15-20 Bills right now I probably wouldn't trade for him. But for people to dismiss a guy two years removed from one of the best rookie seasons in NFL history, while touting the supposed upside of a guy who a) didn't have near the pedigree coming out and b) hasn't shown nearly as much so far in the league- this is getting absolutely ridiculous around here. I don't care how much you think Griffin has lost or whatever, to state that you wouldn't trade EJ Manuel for him is nothing short of insane. Again, not that it matters because it would take a 2nd round pick to land Griffin and EJ might be worth a 6th. Edited March 23, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
SmokinES3 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Just got back from a hike and after paging through this thread, it's pretty clear that people are arguing three different things. Some people are saying "No RGIII sucks." OK, fine. Other people are saying, "RGIII could potentially recapture what he had in his rookie year, I'd be all about getting him on our roster." Fine as well. But very few are considering what the OP actually posed: WOULD YOU TRADE EJ MANUEL FOR HIM. So the thread should really be every bit as much about Manuel as Griffin. The answer is simple: Yes, of course. You should literally have your posting rights revoked for stating otherwise. It's insane. And I am not radically pro-RGIII. There's 15-20 Bills right now I probably wouldn't trade for him. But for people to dismiss a guy two years removed from one of the best rookie seasons in NFL history, while touting the supposed upside of a guy who a) didn't have near the pedigree coming out and b) hasn't shown nearly as much so far in the league- this is getting absolutely ridiculous around here. I don't care how much you think Griffin has lost or whatever, to state that you wouldn't trade EJ Manuel for him is nothing short of insane. Again, not that it matters because it would take a 2nd round pick to land Griffin and EJ might be worth a 6th.Reality✔
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No GM in the NFL would trade anything more than a 5th for Griffin. And even then, it would be a desperate team.
FireChan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) No GM in the NFL would trade anything more than a 5th for Griffin. And even then, it would be a desperate team.Disagree. Browns offered a first for Bradford, who has been worse and hurt more. Edited March 23, 2015 by FireChan
metzelaars_lives Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No GM in the NFL would trade anything more than a 5th for Griffin. And even then, it would be a desperate team. No you're just being ridiculous.
Gugny Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No you're just being ridiculous. Absolutely not. The guy is damaged goods. He worthless. That's why he's still on the Redskins; because they can't get crap for him. They waited too long. Disagree. Browns offered a first for Bradford, who has been worse and hurt more. The same Browns that hired Pettine as HC and drafted John Manziel?
RyanC883 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I can site a few instances where a change a scenery for a QB is a good thing Daryle Lamonica Bills to Raiders, Vinny Testiverde Bucs to Jets, Steve Young Tampa to 49ers, Jim Plunket Pats to Raiders Note he was the number one pick in the draft, Brett Farve ATL to GB , Rich Gannon Chiefs to Raiders, Now you have Fowles and Bradford and Brees had to leave the Chargers to make room for Rivers. Great points. I think RG3 could do well here. If the price is low, why not. Perhaps Tuel for RGIII, or EJ?
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