Inside The Mind Of Islam's False Prophet Muhammad

[Justice]

Thanks for the comic relief. What does a list of rules on the conduct of war have to do with the practice of FGM?

Is that the only topic floating in your little head? You don't answer any of my questions and you constantly ask more. I already addressed FGM.

 

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The rules of war wasn't even addressed to you. I was responding to someone else.

 

BTW. Prove I said FGM is forbidden. I'm waiting.

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[GG]

Nice way to answer the question [sarcasm]. Read my above post. I added to it. She'd look pretty ridiculous wearing a hijab in the middle of spring breakers. Would you take a recovering alcoholic to a liquor store?

 

So what if she wears a hijab? Taking an alcoholic to a liquor store is fine as long as you don't buy him any booze, not that it's even remotely a valid comparison.

[Justice]

 

So what if she wears a hijab? Taking an alcoholic to a liquor store is fine as long as you don't buy him any booze, not that it's even remotely a valid comparison.

If you have a daughter let her go to Cancun for spring break. I'll raise mine. You raise yours. The comparison was made because sin and temptation go hand and hand. I wouldn't bring a recovering alcoholic with me to a liquor store because of the temptation he will face and I also wouldn't put my daughter in the position to fall victim to temptation in a place like Cancun.

 

This isn't even a Muslim issue. I know plenty of Christians, Jews and Atheists that won't allow their kids to go to Cancun.

 

As I previously told you, she can go away to college. I'm fine with that. If she wants a beach it's 18 miles away from home.

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[GG]

If you have a daughter let her go to Cancun for spring break. I'll raise mine. You raise yours. The comparison was made because sin and temptation go hand and hand. I wouldn't bring a recovering alcoholic with me to a liquor store because of the temptation he will face and I also wouldn't put my daughter in the position to fall victim to temptation in a place like Cancun.

 

As I previously told you, she can go away to college. I'm fine with that. If she wants a beach it's 18 miles away from home.

 

And there is your conclusion, you believe that no matter what kind of morals and values you instill in your children over their life, they still need to be hidden away to protect them. But protect them from what? Are you also saying that if a woman isn't covered head to toe, she's inviting an unwanted advance?

[Justice]

 

And there is your conclusion, you believe that no matter what kind of morals and values you instill in your children over their life, they still need to be hidden away to protect them. But protect them from what? Are you also saying that if a woman isn't covered head to toe, she's inviting an unwanted advance?

I made myself clear on that already. It's not even a religious issue. Like I said, I know Christians, Jews and Atheists that won't permit their children to go to Cancun for spring break.

 

No, I'm not saying that at all. Whether she covers or not That's between her and God, but the way you dress says a lot about you as a person.

 

And there is your conclusion, you believe that no matter what kind of morals and values you instill in your children over their life, they still need to be hidden away to protect them. But protect them from what? Are you also saying that if a woman isn't covered head to toe, she's inviting an unwanted advance?

I hold myself to those same restrictions. I once had a gambling problem and now I avoid The Hard Rock Casino at all costs.

 

Man, I couldn't tell you how many of my friends told me they wish their kids were more like mine.

Hey, 3rd, having fun looking for something that doesn't exist? Lol. Don't put words in my mouth next time. Makes you look foolish or a liar. Either one is bad.

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[GG]

I made myself clear on that already. It's not even a religious issue. Like I said, I know Christians, Jews and Atheists that won't permit their children to go to Cancun for spring break.

 

No, I'm not saying that at all. Whether she covers or not That's between her and God, but the way you dress says a lot about you as a person.

 

I hold myself to those same restrictions. I once had a gambling problem and now I avoid The Hard Rock Casino at all costs.

 

Good to see that you saw the light, but that's your choice. And that's the difference between societies where that choice is available vs where the choice doesn't exist at all. And it gets back to the push against modernity, which has been gathering steam starting with Qtub's teachings and along with rekindling of tribal wars, is at the bottom of most Muslim strife.

[Justice]

 

Good to see that you saw the light, but that's your choice. And that's the difference between societies where that choice is available vs where the choice doesn't exist at all. And it gets back to the push against modernity, which has been gathering steam starting with Qtub's teachings and along with rekindling of tribal wars, is at the bottom of most Muslim strife.

That's what makes this country so great. For the most part Muslims in America are tax paying law abiding citizens, but we shouldn't force this way of life on those that don't want it. Look at what we did to Iraq. Edited April 16, 2015 by Justice

[3rdnlng]

I made myself clear on that already. It's not even a religious issue. Like I said, I know Christians, Jews and Atheists that won't permit their children to go to Cancun for spring break.

 

No, I'm not saying that at all. Whether she covers or not That's between her and God, but the way you dress says a lot about you as a person.

I hold myself to those same restrictions. I once had a gambling problem and now I avoid The Hard Rock Casino at all costs.

 

Man, I couldn't tell you how many of my friends told me they wish their kids were more like mine.

Hey, 3rd, having fun looking for something that doesn't exist? Lol. Don't put words in my mouth next time. Makes you look foolish or a liar. Either one is bad.

Hey Justice, it was in your post #250:

 

"He also brought up another example of how some Muslims do things that Islam doesn't permit, such as Female Mutilation. The Quran and the Hadiths doesn't even mention FM."

 

I won't go as far as you did and call you a liar because I know people can make an honest mistake. You do look awful foolish though.

[Justice]

Hey Justice, it was in your post #250:

 

"He also brought up another example of how some Muslims do things that Islam doesn't permit, such as Female Mutilation. The Quran and the Hadiths doesn't even mention FM."

 

I won't go as far as you did and call you a liar because I know people can make an honest mistake. You do look awful foolish though.

Are you being serious? Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. You're not a liar. You just can't comprehend. There's a huge difference between doesn't permit and forbid. Try to keep things in context. My very next sentence was, "the Quran and Hadiths doesn't even mention FGM".

 

I can see where you misunderstood, I probably could've worded it better, but the very next sentence should've made things clear to you.

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[Justice]

While we're on the subject of FGM, I'd like to point out that while yes it is rampant in some Muslim countries other predominantly Christian countries such as Ethiopia and Eritrea also practice in it.

 

I'd like to point out that Indonesia (88% Muslim and the largest Muslim population in the world) has a ban on FGM. It's still practiced there though.

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[3rdnlng]

Are you being serious? Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. You're not a liar. You just can't comprehend. There's a huge difference between doesn't permit and forbid. Try to keep things in context. My very next sentence was, "the Quran and Hadiths doesn't even mention FGM".

 

I can see where you misunderstood, I probably could've worded it better, but the very next sentence should've made things clear to you.

Please explain the difference between "doesn't permit" and forbidden. I'm well aware of what your next sentence said. I wanted to know, from you, where it was prohibited.

While we're on the subject of FGM, I'd like to point out that while yes it is rampant in some Muslim countries other predominantly Christian countries such as Ethiopia and Eritrea also practice in it.

 

I'd like to point out that Indonesia (88% Muslim and the largest Muslim population in the world) has a ban on FGM. It's still practiced there though.

Don't confuse laws made by a government and religious practices.

[Justice]

Please explain the difference between "doesn't permit" and forbidden. I'm well aware of what your next sentence said. I wanted to know, from you, where it was prohibited.

 

Don't confuse laws made by a government and religious practices.

You don't quit, do you? The difference is and what I meant was the Quran doesn't give you permission to do so, but my next sentence was vital and that's why I added it. It's not mentioned in the Quran or Hadiths. If it's not there then it wouldn't be anywhere else. I never said it was forbidden.

[Justice]

@3rd To take it even further Islam isn't just a religion it's a way of life. A manual so to speak. If FGM was forbidden it would say so. There's no mention of it at all either way so I suppose it's not a sin, but since it's not suggested than it's not something you have to do.

 

I mentioned earlier that crack isn't mentioned in the Quran but that doesn't mean you can do it. What is mentioned in the Quran is you shouldn't do any substance that alters your personality or impairs your judgment. Therefore all of drugs and alcohol is covered under that command.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Female genital mutilation is a tribal pre-Islamic practice.

[Justice]

Female genital mutilation is a tribal pre-Islamic practice.

Did anyone ever consider male circumcision to be male genital mutilation? Serious question. Was it ever frowned upon?

[TakeYouToTasker]

Did anyone ever consider male circumcision to be male genital mutilation? Serious question. Was it ever frowned upon?

I have a very good friend (Jewish, ironic enough) that has much to say on this topic. He firmly believes male circumcision to be mutilation which serves no purpose in the modern world.

 

Male circumcision and female circumcision are very different, however. The final outcome of female circumcision makes sex not only unenjoyable, but excruciating for women. Imagine having the head of your rooster lopped off, and the rest of it sabotaged in such a way that the skin was ripped from it the first time you had sex.

[Justice]

I have a very good friend (Jewish, ironic enough) that has much to say on this topic. He firmly believes male circumcision to be mutilation which serves no purpose in the modern world.

 

Male circumcision and female circumcision are very different, however. The final outcome of female circumcision makes sex not only unenjoyable, but excruciating for women. Imagine having the head of your rooster lopped off, and the rest of it sabotaged in such a way that the skin was ripped from it the first time you had sex.

Thanks for the reply. Interesting.

 

That sounds horrible.

[3rdnlng]

@3rd To take it even further Islam isn't just a religion it's a way of life. A manual so to speak. If FGM was forbidden it would say so. There's no mention of it at all either way so I suppose it's not a sin, but since it's not suggested than it's not something you have to do.

 

I mentioned earlier that crack isn't mentioned in the Quran but that doesn't mean you can do it. What is mentioned in the Quran is you shouldn't do any substance that alters your personality or impairs your judgment. Therefore all of drugs and alcohol is covered under that command.

You said earlier that FGM is not permitted in Islam. I simply asked you for an explanation of why it is not permitted, or more accurately, on what authority it is not permitted.

[TakeYouToTasker]

You said earlier that FGM is not permitted in Islam. I simply asked you for an explanation of why it is not permitted, or more accurately, on what authority it is not permitted.

Where in the Bible is it prohibited?

[Justice]

You said earlier that FGM is not permitted in Islam. I simply asked you for an explanation of why it is not permitted, or more accurately, on what authority it is not permitted.

Oh my. You're cherry picking statements. I already explained it to you in detail. Know when you're wrong. Give up already.