RuntheDamnBall Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I'll bet that ESPN is thrilled to have him on the payroll.He is truly carrying on in the tradition of James Walker.
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 that is a lot of dollar though, holy sheet. El Pegula dug another oil well with his own shovel to cover it
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Miami has 5 days to counter....looks like we frontloaded this year to prevent Miami from re-signing him http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/17/bills-sign-charles-clay-to-offer-sheet/ about time, anything to screw Miami, now if we can get there QB, Championship
8-8 Forever? Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Good. With all due respect to Ralph, Whaley has to be thrilled to be out from under the founding regime and able to actually compete in today's NFL. Not guaranteeing anything, but at least they now can at least try to get better as a roster and a team
thewildrabbit Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Glad to see the Bills are finally going to fill this need with a player who can both block, and catch. The best part is it takes a weapon away from a rival.
MDH Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 While the overall numbers arent bad I do see two potential problems with this signing. One, if Clay cant stay healthy thats a lot of money for a guy who cant stay on the field. His knee problems are a bit concerning. Two, if Clay plays well the way this contract is structured encourages a holdout after year two. We've seen it a thousand times, the moment a guy feels like he isnt getting paid what he's worth it's trouble and players (and agents) tend to conviently forget that their contract was front loaded. Granted, a restructuring next off season could fix problem two but Im wondering what Clay's motivation for restructuring would be when he is already guaranteed a huge payday that year. Dont get me wrong, loke the Bills Clay was the guy I most wanted in FA, but the upfront and guaranteed money could come back to bite them. And before anyone says it, yeah, I realize the Bills needed to find a way of structuring the contract so the Phins couldnt match. However that doesnt mean it wont come back to bite them.
DrDrakeRemore Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Awesome move! The future is looking brighter!
ALF Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 The rivalry with Miami will be a lot more intense after this signing. Always double team Suh. The Bills have 25 FAs after the 2015 season , players wanting to prove they deserve a big raise. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2016/buffalo-bills/
nucci Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 While the overall numbers arent bad I do see two potential problems with this signing. One, if Clay cant stay healthy thats a lot of money for a guy who cant stay on the field. His knee problems are a bit concerning. Two, if Clay plays well the way this contract is structured encourages a holdout after year two. We've seen it a thousand times, the moment a guy feels like he isnt getting paid what he's worth it's trouble and players (and agents) tend to conviently forget that their contract was front loaded. Granted, a restructuring next off season could fix problem two but Im wondering what Clay's motivation for restructuring would be when he is already guaranteed a huge payday that year. Dont get me wrong, loke the Bills Clay was the guy I most wanted in FA, but the upfront and guaranteed money could come back to bite them. And before anyone says it, yeah, I realize the Bills needed to find a way of structuring the contract so the Phins couldnt match. However that doesnt mean it wont come back to bite them. How? and any player can get hurt at any time......I always read...."if he can stay healthy". That's every player in the league.
MDH Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 How? and any player can get hurt at any time......I always read...."if he can stay healthy". That's every player in the league. The guy already has a knee issue, so it's not an "any player can get injured" type thing.
machine gun kelly Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 They must have reviewed his medical records with his permission to sign him up for this money. If healthy, this is great news. Add to our roster and subtract from the Fish. Added to NE losing Browner and Revis, and the AFC East gets tighter as a division. I wonder if there are any decent Guards left on the market, some could go into the draft purely with BPA strategy.
CSBill Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 It's a miracle ! Clay day is upon us El Pegula dug another oil well with his own shovel to cover it and he's welcome to put it in my backyard, Bills get another FA, and I get big royalty checks for the rest of my life.
nucci Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 The guy already has a knee issue, so it's not an "any player can get injured" type thing. I get it if at one time he injured his knee but don't think I would call it an issue. He certainly seemed fine last year.
eball Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Watkins. Woods. Harvin. McCoy. Clay. Name me a team that comes close. Granted, the QB position is the most important in pro sports, but no team has more skill at skill positions. And we have a top defense. And we have a top ST. And we may or may not have a top coach. Rex took a team with a great defense and not much else to two AFC Championship games. He's gotta be smiling right now.
MDH Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I get it if at one time he injured his knee but don't think I would call it an issue. He certainly seemed fine last year. His knee and his hamstring gave him trouble most of last year. He only missed two games but from most accounts he was hampered by the injuries.
Nanker Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Hope he didn't sign it after being out all day and evening bar-hopping on St. Paddy's day. March 17 will be Clay Day from now on in Western NY.
papazoid Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 i say miami matches, they have enough/ plenty of cap space. if the roles were reversed.....wouldn't you want buffalo to match miami's offer ? miami has about 5 players worth keeping and projected $30 mil under the cap for 2016 ...they can cut whats needed to keep clay.
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 First off, great play by the Bills, this puts Miami in a tough situation. With that said, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Miami matches the offer. For one, people tend to think in the short term and worry about longer term consequences down the road. If Miami lets Clay walk to Buffalo, the Bills have substantially more offensive weapons in 2015 than Miami. In addition, everyone keeps saying don't worry about cap room for the Bills in 2016 bc the salary cap is expected to get a hike. Well, even though Miami has money tied up in some key players already, that same expected hike would also help Miami deal w the large dollars allocated for Clay. Anyway, hope I'm wrong, the waiting game is on! i say miami matches, they have enough/ plenty of cap space. if the roles were reversed.....wouldn't you want buffalo to match miami's offer ? miami has about 5 players worth keeping and projected $30 mil under the cap for 2016 ...they can cut whats needed to keep clay. You beat me to it!
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) i say miami matches, they have enough/ plenty of cap space. if the roles were reversed.....wouldn't you want buffalo to match miami's offer ? miami has about 5 players worth keeping and projected $30 mil under the cap for 2016 ...they can cut whats needed to keep clay. I don't see how they do it, they have Tannehill, Vernon, and Pouncey to resign next year and only have 30 players signed with their $117 million...they are in a bad, bad place with their cap. Currently they still have major needs on their team to fill and very little money left to do it. If they decide to match, good for them, they pretty much guarantee they will be a non factor for years to come. Top heavy teams with no depth cannot compete in the NFL...those are the teams that usually get off to fast starts then fade as the injuries pile up as the season goes on... Edited March 18, 2015 by matter2003
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