Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I think the Chargers will do all they can to get Mariota. They want that "STAR" QB for the LA market and the plus is he's got huge name recognition on the west coast. There's probably a whole lot going on behind the scenes since Tampa is cooling from Winston and they are probably hearing Mariota doesn't want to go there, he wants to go to the LA Chargers. Maybe Tampa ends up trading that pick to the Chargers for a few picks. I don't think Tampa wants Winston at all and it probably stems from the female part owner hearing what he said on that cafeteria table top. Where does Winston end up? Probably to the Jets. saw on Path to the draft that Chargers brought in Marriota for a work out, which made me think they are thinking about Shopping Rivers. If I'm Pegs I'm doing whatever it takes to get Rivers on this team as we would be Contenders for sure.
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I'd take Rivers as my QB. He's probably got 4-5 good years in him. I would hope he wouldn't talk much about anything besides football, though.
YoloinOhio Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I think there is a good chance he's traded, but almost no chance it is to the Bills. They want a new franchise Qb in return. Preferably Mariota. Imo
KD in CA Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I think there is a good chance he's traded, but almost no chance it is to the Bills. They want a new franchise Qb in return. Preferably Mariota. Imo I don't think he'll be traded (I think they'll franchise him for 2016), but the bold part is spot on. No one is going to trade a top-15 QB for any reason unless they are either a) getting one back in return or b) have another one on the bench ready to take over. This is why guys like Manning and Newton will be resigned by their teams and sooner or later the Bills must find a QB in the draft.
aristocrat Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 i wonder what the titans could end up with? rivers and a first? let mettenberger develop or get another guy. titans could turn it around if they draft well
billykaykay Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 i wonder what the titans could end up with? rivers and a first? let mettenberger develop or get another guy. titans could turn it around if they draft well I watched Mettenberger play 2 games. He looks like the real deal & an outright steal from last year's draft. IMHO the Titans will not draft a QB but will trade the pick.
aristocrat Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I watched Mettenberger play 2 games. He looks like the real deal & an outright steal from last year's draft. IMHO the Titans will not draft a QB but will trade the pick. I have heard they are high on him but just wondering if he needs to sit this year? They would be smart to pick up another second this year and a first next year at least and get 3 starters potentially on this years roster and then 3 more next year....would be a huge influx of talent. they need defense bad.
ChanOverChin Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Quite obviously, the Bills have done a great job in improving the team this off-season by adding RB L. McCoy, WR P. Harvin, TE C. Clay, FB J. Shelton, QB M. Cassel, QB T. Taylor, OG R. Incognito, and re-signing DE J. Hughes, but have they done enough?? Enough to win the Super Bowl, enough to win the division, .............even enough to make the payoffs?? Well, many of the NFL pundits would say, "ehhhhhhhhhhhh, no". That's mostly because there's this pesky team in their division named the NE Patriots. With that all being said, since the team is clearly going for broke this year, do you think they should try to improve the one position that would actually put them over the top and actually make them the favorite to win the AFC East, a favorite to make the playoffs, and a favorite to make it to the Super Bowl?? Yes, I'm talking about trying to acquire a proven, veteran, high quality QB. One who appears to be available via trade. His name is Phillip Rivers. The Titans and Chargers are discussing such a trade as we speak. You put Rivers on the Bills' roster, a roster that many NFL experts readily admit may very well already be the most talented in the entire league, and now you're talking about a true AFCE/playoff/SB contender. If I'm Double D (Dealer Doug), I'm searching for a way to make this happen (within reason of course). Your thoughts??
Billy in 4C Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I don't disagree with you but a couple issues: 1. Would Rivers want to move his family to Buffalo - apparently this is his big sticking point in the LA move 2. We would need to give up a lot - we don't have much we want to give up besides future draft picks - hurting our young/low cap strategy in the future 3. We would have to find a way to pay his salary - I'm not sure there is enough re-structuring/cutting to get us under the cap 4. It would make it difficult to sign Marcel
Simon Says Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Rumors of Titans interested in doing something THIS year..but they have way more cap money AND the second overall pick. the Bills would have to cut ,whom, to fit Rivers under the cap? Mario?Clay, Kyle, Dareus and Gilmore? It would defeat the purpose
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 @pecrawleynfl: Link here: http://t.co/D06hFEAONe Definitive stuff from @LT_21. Strong feels Rivers won't be in SD past 2015. https://t.co/wuogXIv10L
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I'de trade our next 3 1st round picks for him without thinking twice. Rivers our QB in 15,16,17, and 18. We draft his replacement in 2019 draft. The team would be Super Bowl contenders for 4 years. Rumors of Titans interested in doing something THIS year..but they have way more cap money AND the second overall pick. the Bills would have to cut ,whom, to fit Rivers under the cap? Mario?Clay, Kyle, Dareus and Gilmore? It would defeat the purposeNo major cut. Extend Mario is all that's needed. Extend Dareus also could create room. Trade EJ. Edited April 20, 2015 by TheTruthHurts
maddenboy Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I'de trade our next 3 1st round picks for him without thinking twice. Rivers our QB in 15,16,17, and 18. We draft his replacement in 2019 17 draft. The team would be Super Bowl contenders for 4 years. We want QBs to sit for a while and marinate, right?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 We want QBs to sit for a while and marinate, right?Rivers probably plays until 38 or 39,maybe 40.
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Don't be surprised if Weddle is traded http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2015/apr/20/chargers-weddle-unhappy-contract-acee/
Prickly Pete Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Rivers isn't coming to Buffalo. It would be great. But he's not coming. I am not buying his anti-LA stance either. I live in LA, and have spent enough time driving up and down the coast to San Diego, to know there is virtually no difference (culturally, architecturally, etc) between any place south of Long Beach, and San Diego. It's one long, homogeneous stretch, of suburban whitey-ville. If that really is a concern for him, he is truly out of his mind, and living with blinders on. Edited April 21, 2015 by HoF Watkins
RK_BillsFan Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Who the heck is saying we have Cap space next year? Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE Rivers, but we would have to let at least 1 key player walk next year to snag him. And i don't mean someone who's been just holding down the fort, but is constantly playing at a high level.
Beef Jerky Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Who the heck is saying we have Cap space next year? Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE Rivers, but we would have to let at least 1 key player walk next year to snag him. And i don't mean someone who's been just holding down the fort, but is constantly playing at a high level. Yes and a QB is the only position worth that sacrifice.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Rivers isn't coming to Buffalo. It would be great. But he's not coming. I am not buying his anti-LA stance either. I live in LA, and have spent enough time driving up and down the coast to San Diego, to know there is virtually no difference (culturally, architecturally, etc) between any place south of Long Beach, and San Diego. It's one long, homogeneous stretch, of suburban whitey-ville. If that really is a concern for him, he is truly out of his mind, and living with blinders on. Living in LA I'm sure you've come across plenty of people who live in the valley/west side/OC who would hate living elsewhere in the city -- let alone San Diego. I imagine the same would apply for some folks living in San Diego when they think of Los Angeles. That said, I agree with you that it's nuts. But if it helps Buffalo get a QB like Rivers, I'm all for nutty.
RK_BillsFan Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Ya.... 1 of those people would possibly be our starting LT...... lets make another hole on the OL. GOOD CALL COACH. I don't know if you can note my sarcasm. Rivers is good, but I would not trade him for losing 2 of the following: Marcell Dareus Stephon Gilmore Nigel Bradham Cordy Glenn Robert Woods Leodis McKelvin This doesn't even cover the fact that I'm not mentioning people who playing this year for the starting job or important backups and if they become key cogs to the team we end up with more issues: Percy Harvin Richie Incognito Anthony Dixon Jarius Wynn Ron Brooks Duke Williams Johnathan Meeks Nickell Robey Bacarri Rambo Stefan Charles Chris Hogan Corbin Bryant Tell me again how much cap room we have. I didn't even bother listing 2/3rd of our TE's who also have to be paid over the next two years. Assuming a raise of the cap to 150 million, and only 5 million being spent on draft picks (really low amount it here but makes my math easier) We have 20 Million to work with . So you would go get Rivers, and possibly let go of 2 starting Oline men and possibly more? Looking at at best case scenarios, Incognito takes C.Williams contract and that becomes a wash. Mario Williams restructures and the money saved allows us to maintain Dareus. The hate on this board for McKelvin is built rightfully so, however last year he made an amazing leap forward in terms of ability and play level. If he keeps it up this year, It would be hard to say oh just drop him, considering our mixed bag of depth at CB/S. I would love Rivers, but 1) we can't truly afford him 2) he doesn't want to come up here it would cost us even more money to convince him to and at his age, and the options he has, he would have no reason to take more money to go somewhere he doesn't want too. Edited April 21, 2015 by RK_BillsFan
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