Big Turk Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Urbik went from making 2.65 million next year in base salary to 1.2 million...agreed to 1.2 million salary for next year as well...no word on if $300,000 roster bonus he was set to get if on the roster after the 5th league day is being paid yet.. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/17/kraig-urbik-takes-pay-cut-with-bills/ More free cap savings for the Bills...easiest way of all...no restructure, just a straight pay cut. Edited March 17, 2015 by matter2003
Green Lightning Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Actually smart for both sides. He provides depth at OG and center. DW continues to impress.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Nice move, he's not making much above league minimum now and will likely be better than any street FA we bring in. C- Wood G - Incognito, Urbik, Richardson - Williams? T - Glenn, Henderson, Kouandjio Depending on what we do with Williams, we have room for one or two more guys. It would be nice to pick up a cap casualty who can start to upgrade a guard or tackle spot, then get someone in round 2-3 to get another body in to compete.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Actually smart for both sides. He provides depth at OG and center. DW continues to impress. Yep, just another simple but very smart move by our shrewd FO that the "fans" will quickly forget about next time they want to complain. Nice move, he's not making much above league minimum now and will likely be better than any street FA we bring in. C- Wood G - Incognito, Urbik, Richardson - Williams? T - Glenn, Henderson, Kouandjio Depending on what we do with Williams, we have room for one or two more guys. It would be nice to pick up a cap casualty who can start to upgrade a guard or tackle spot, then get someone in round 2-3 to get another body in to compete. I know most of them are camp fodder and wont have careers, but for what its worth, the Bills currently have 8 Guards on the roster. I didnt realize that until just a couple days ago when someone pointed it out.
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I think that's very smart! Urbik is an average starter and a very solid backup. There was a lot of speculation that we would cut both him and Chris Williams to free up space to get a better Guard. But I like Urbik taking a substantial pay cut and staying instead of losing him and gaining another 1.2 mil. Chris Williams on the other hand....
NoSaint Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 really puts williams on the bubble even more now if he doesnt win the starting job handily.
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2015 Author Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) I think that's very smart! Urbik is an average starter and a very solid backup. There was a lot of speculation that we would cut both him and Chris Williams to free up space to get a better Guard. But I like Urbik taking a substantial pay cut and staying instead of losing him and gaining another 1.2 mil. Chris Williams on the other hand.... Kind of nitpicky, but we actually gained $1.45 million...he reduced his salaries of 2.65 million this year and 2.975 million next year to $1.2 million each of those years...never know where that 250K might come in handy ;-) Edited March 17, 2015 by matter2003
nucci Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I think that's very smart! Urbik is an average starter and a very solid backup. There was a lot of speculation that we would cut both him and Chris Williams to free up space to get a better Guard. But I like Urbik taking a substantial pay cut and staying instead of losing him and gaining another 1.2 mil. Chris Williams on the other hand.... How can someone be an average starter but solid backup? So he's good when he's not playing but once he has to play he becomes average?
Bocephuz Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Yep, just another simple but very smart move by our shrewd FO that the "fans" will quickly forget about next time they want to complain. I know most of them are camp fodder and wont have careers, but for what its worth, the Bills currently have 8 Guards on the roster. I didnt realize that until just a couple days ago when someone pointed it out. Nice move ... at the very least he is a solid backup at G and C. It's also quite possible with the new coaching staff and fresh eyes.. he wins one of the starting G positions in training camp . Hopefully they sign / draft a plug and play starter at guard between now and then..in which case Urbik is the swing guard/C and maybe we can release Williams to save some money
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2015 Author Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) How can someone be an average starter but solid backup? So he's good when he's not playing but once he has to play he becomes average? Easily, if he was a good player he would be starting...some backups are trainwrecks when they get in there...a backups main job is to do well enough that the team isn't hamstrung when he is in there by having to give extra help to him...Urbik does that well enough... Edited March 17, 2015 by matter2003
K D Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Good for a backup. Get a starter and cut Williams next
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Kind of nitpicky, but we actually gained $1.45 million...he reduced his salaries of 2.65 million this year and 2.975 million next year to $1.2 million each of those years...never know where that 250K might come in handy ;-) I was saying I preferred keeping him at 1.2 rather than cutting him and getting back said 1.2 on top of what we have already saved How can someone be an average starter but solid backup? So he's good when he's not playing but once he has to play he becomes average? Because most backup Guards are below average starters. It's the same way Kyle Orton was considered a top tier backup QB - but an average at best starter. Edited March 17, 2015 by BillsFanForever19
Dorkington Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Wow... its surprising for a player to straight up take a cut.
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I wonder if he would have done this if his buddy Marrone was still here.
2003Contenders Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I may in the minority here, but despite some of the lower rankings by PFF and others, I did not think that Urbik played THAT poorly last season. I know he was banged up in the preseason and somehow wound up in St. Doug's doghouse. It was only by a matter of attrition that he finally got on the field once Williams went down for the season and Richardson proved to be unready for prime time. From what I observed, Urbik was clearly the best of the 3.
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 This is huge. Negates the need to bring in a game day interior backup AND saves cap space. Well done on both ends.
BarleyNY Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Wow... its surprising for a player to straight up take a cut. Team probably told him they were not going to pay his roster bonus. His choices were down to taking the pay cut or looking for another job. If he didn't think he was going to make more elsewhere his decision was easy.
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