The dangers of our new normal...

[Azalin]

 

They want you to have ID to give your money to a institution...but voter IDs disenfranchise people.

 

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

[Deranged Rhino]

Yup, and I said your worst case scenario was pretty weak. I watched your video on dick pics and that it was a pretty weak explination of why I should be terrified. I posted on your Nazi Germany analogy and thought it was beyond silly and pointed out why. Weak!

 

There isn't a single accurate sentence in that whole post. You did not say my "worst case scenario was weak", you said my position was weak. My argument, which you continue to prove accurate, is you do not understand my position on this enough to assign it any adjective, let alone weak. I asked you to prove me wrong by summarizing exactly what you believe my position is. You then quoted post 35 as if that were my position. It is not. It was, and remains, an explicit answer to a question you asked.

 

I also never made an analogy to Nazi Germany, though I did respond to your Nazii Germany analogies which we all saw were as ridiculous as your claim to have understood my position on this topic, or the topic itself.

 

Anything else you wish to lie about in this thread? Or would you rather take a second swing at summarizing my weak position on this topic -- this time use your own words. You clearly can't be trusted to use anyone else's considering the post above.

Edited May 21, 2015 by GreggyT

[DC Tom]

Yup, and I said your worst case scenario was pretty weak. I watched your video on dick pics and that it was a pretty weak explination of why I should be terrified. I posted on your Nazi Germany analogy and thought it was beyond silly and pointed out why. Weak!

 

What? It was YOUR Nazi analogy, you asshat.

[Tiberius]

 

What? It was YOUR Nazi analogy, you asshat.

And they ran with it. I used it in a pejorative manner and they said I was blind you moron

There isn't a single accurate sentence in that whole post. You did not say my "worst case scenario was weak", you said my position was weak. My argument, which you continue to prove accurate, is you do not understand my position on this enough to assign it any adjective, let alone weak. I asked you to prove me wrong by summarizing exactly what you believe my position is. You then quoted post 35 as if that were my position. It is not. It was, and remains, an explicit answer to a question you asked.

 

I also never made an analogy to Nazi Germany, though I did respond to your Nazii Germany analogies which we all saw were as ridiculous as your claim to have understood my position on this topic, or the topic itself.

 

Anything else you wish to lie about in this thread? Or would you rather take a second swing at summarizing my weak position on this topic -- this time use your own words. You clearly can't be trusted to use anyone else's considering the post above.

You wrote it. I pointed out how weak it is and now you want to simply pass it off as nothing but a worst case scenario? Your argument was weak and now your pathetic defense of it is even weaker. At least defend what YOU wrote. You are really pathetic

[Tiberius]

 

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Right now the only thing keeping the United States government from operating like the Gestapo or KGB of the 60's-70s, are the policies in place by the current elected representatives.

Oh wait, I wasn't the first one to bring up the Nazis. Punked!

[Chef Jim]

Oh wait, I wasn't the first one to bring up the Nazis. Punked!

 

Are you sure you're not a 14 year old?? Because you sure have the maturity level of one.

[Azalin]

 

Are you sure you're not a 14 year old?? Because you sure have the maturity level of one.

 

That is an insult to 14 year-olds everywhere.

[Tiberius]

 

Are you sure you're not a 14 year old?? Because you sure have the maturity level of one.

Oh look what the cat dragged in. Mr. Mature himself. How do you define maturity?

[DC Tom]

Oh look what the cat dragged in. Mr. Mature himself. How do you define maturity?

 

First, let's define "privacy."

[Tiberius]

First, let's define "privacy."

Who brought up Nazis first?

[Chef Jim]

Oh look what the cat dragged in. Mr. Mature himself. How do you define maturity?

People who don't call people names and go out of their way to, as you say, punk them. Once again I, and i think it's safe to assume many here, were very surprised to hear you were in your 40's. I still don't believe it.

Who brought up Nazis first?

Slow study hall today?

[Deranged Rhino]

You wrote it. I pointed out how weak it is and now you want to simply pass it off as nothing but a worst case scenario? Your argument was weak and now your pathetic defense of it is even weaker. At least defend what YOU wrote. You are really pathetic

 

I wrote it because you asked me to describe the worst case scenario. I was, you know, answering your questions. I did not write it then, or ever, as a summary of my position on this topic which is the question I've asked of you. The one you're still dodging. Will you not answer it in your own words? Can you not summarize my "weak" position on this topic? Why can't you summarize it? Is it because you're uninterested in having an honest conversation, Mags?

 

Is that your game now? You won't answer questions (despite calling people out for not answering yours -- even when they do), you hurl poorly constructed insults at everyone and get butthurt when someone throws one back your way... you know what that type of person is called? A coward. Which defines you quite well. You are a coward who doesn't have the courage of his convictions. If you did, you'd answer the question honesty, or at least refrain from lying about my position.

 

Are you capable of being honest? That's a serious question.

[DC Tom]

Are you capable of being honest? That's a serious question.

 

Of course he isn't...

[Deranged Rhino]

Oh wait, I wasn't the first one to bring up the Nazis. Punked!

 

Again, you're just being dishonest. On March 15th I did indeed bring up the Gestapo and the KGB in relation to how the United States so far is NOT acting like them. This was said to Azalin in response to something he posted. It wasn't until almost a month later when you wrongfully interpreted this paragraph and made your ridiculous Nazi analogies that went on for pages.

 

 

Right now the only thing keeping the United States government from operating like the Gestapo or KGB of the 60's-70s, are the policies in place by the current elected representatives. Those policies which determine how they can collect information and how they can use it, are not known to the public. They're classified and handled in the secret court system set up by 43 and strengthened by 44. There is no mechanism in place that forces the elected representatives to inform us of any changes they make to those oversights, so there's no way to know how or why they're using these tools. And if you bring up this point you're painted as either a conspiracy nut (which is odd because it's become such common knowledge we make jokes about ending up on watch lists in texts and emails) or dismissed because the subject is too uncomfortable to talk about.

 

If the wrong person or persons come to power in this country, we could lose our entire democracy and not even realize it until it's too late.

 

But you're right, Gator (not you Azalin), it's no big deal...

 

 

Yes! Because, dear sir, you missed my point--smart as you are--that its really information overload for anyone. Seriously, every single email and text and call etc. Its so much its basically use--and in fact most of it is useless any way.

Nazi Germany could simply physically exert that power. Ever hear of the Gestapo?

 

 

So, care to try again? Or would you rather answer the question honestly? I know you enjoy lying, I can only presume that's because when you lie your nose grows and I imagine having a large appendage on your face might make you feel better about what you're missing between your... ears... but having an honest discussion is far more entertaining for the rest of the audience.

[Tiberius]

 

 

Again, you're just being dishonest. On March 15th I did indeed bring up the Gestapo and the KGB in relation to how the United States so far is NOT acting like them.

 

Yes, you did bring them up, thanks! And you did say it's how we are a step away. Your twisting and turning is pathetic. I did not bring up the Nazis first YOU did.

 

You are such a creep

[Deranged Rhino]

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NSA Planned to Hijack Google App Store to Hack Smartphones

 

 

 

As part of a pilot project codenamed IRRITANT HORN, the agencies were developing a method to hack and hijack phone users’ connections to app stores so that they would be able to send malicious “implants” to targeted devices. The implants could then be used to collect data from the phones without their users noticing.

 

Previous disclosures from the Snowden files have shown agencies in the Five Eyes alliance designed spyware for iPhones and Android smartphones, enabling them to infect targeted phones and grab emails, texts, web history, call records, videos, photos and other files stored on them. But methods used by the agencies to get the spyware onto phones in the first place have remained unclear.

The newly published document shows how the agencies wanted to “exploit” app store servers – using them to launch so-called “man-in-the-middle” attacks to infect phones with the implants. A man-in-the-middle attack is a technique in which hackers place themselves between computers as they are communicating with each other; it is a tactic sometimes used by criminal hackers to defraud people. In this instance, the method would have allowed the surveillance agencies to modify the content of data packets passing between targeted smartphones and the app servers while an app was being downloaded or updated, inserting spyware that would be covertly sent to the phones.

 

 

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Yes, you did bring them up, thanks! And you did say it's how we are a step away. Your twisting and turning is pathetic. I did not bring up the Nazis first YOU did.

 

You are such a creep

 

You absolutely, 100% brought up the Nazis and your analogy entirely on your own almost a month later. There were no discussion of what the Gestapo could, or could not do until you made your analogy. You remember the one, the one we all laughed at because it was inconceivably stupid. I may be a creep, but at least I'm honest. And at least I attempt to have conversations with people -- even ones who disagree with me -- and try to understand their viewpoint.

 

You, sadly, take the opposite approach. If it runs counter to your beliefs, or if you don't understand it (which is pretty much anything above a pre-K level), you dismiss it with hostility.

 

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Rand Paul Bets Campaign on Filibuster:

 

 

 

But big moves carry big risks, as supporters of Paul’s GOP competitors pointed out. Rival campaigns and other Republicans note that times have changed since Paul burst onto the national scene with his filibuster. Now, they say, with the Islamic State on the march, Paul’s efforts to restrict the NSA could jeopardize national security. Some predicted the filibuster would backfire, serving mainly to show early-state voters just how out of step Paul can be with the Republican mainstream.

“I just don’t know if it’ll generate the same level of energy or enthusiasm,” said Robert C. O’Brien, a foreign policy adviser to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. “We’re in a different security situation with the fall of Ramadi. … While there are people rightly concerned about the NSA following the law and appropriate rules and regulations, I think people realize we face a very, very serious security threat.”

 

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/rand-paul-bets-the-campaign-on-filibuster-118166.html

Edited May 21, 2015 by GreggyT

[Azalin]

 

I wrote it because you asked me to describe the worst case scenario. I was, you know, answering your questions. I did not write it then, or ever, as a summary of my position on this topic which is the question I've asked of you. The one you're still dodging. Will you not answer it in your own words? Can you not summarize my "weak" position on this topic? Why can't you summarize it? Is it because you're uninterested in having an honest conversation, Mags?

 

Is that your game now? You won't answer questions (despite calling people out for not answering yours -- even when they do), you hurl poorly constructed insults at everyone and get butthurt when someone throws one back your way... you know what that type of person is called? A coward. Which defines you quite well. You are a coward who doesn't have the courage of his convictions. If you did, you'd answer the question honesty, or at least refrain from lying about my position.

 

Are you capable of being honest? That's a serious question.

 

You pretty much have to have some idea of what it is that you're talking about in order to be honest when discussing it, so no. He's not anywhere near capable of being honest while discussing stuff like this. See below.

 

Yes, you did bring them up, thanks! And you did say it's how we are a step away. Your twisting and turning is pathetic. I did not bring up the Nazis first YOU did.

 

You are such a creep

 

This is a perfect example of all you're ever going to get from this guy. Do you remember pajama boy - the snottly little lib wearing a onesie? They use the same technique in "debating" (note the quotation marks) - any kind of reply, no matter how inane, irrevelant, or scatological is adequate. You don't lose an argument unless you stop replying.

 

Watching you try to get any kind of reasonable answer out of Gator is akin to watching Neil Degrasse Tyson discuss astrophysics with a corn dog.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

You pretty much have to have some idea of what it is that you're talking about in order to be honest when discussing it, so no. He's not anywhere near capable of being honest while discussing stuff like this. See below.

 

 

This is a perfect example of all you're ever going to get from this guy. Do you remember pajama boy - the snottly little lib wearing a onesie? They use the same technique in "debating" (note the quotation marks) - any kind of reply, no matter how inane, irrevelant, or scatological is adequate. You don't lose an argument unless you stop replying.

 

Watching you try to get any kind of reasonable answer out of Gator is akin to watching Neil Degrasse Tyson discuss astrophysics with a corn dog.

 

You make excellent points. I'm a sucker.

[Azalin]

 

You make excellent points. I'm a sucker.

 

Not at all - you're goading some pretty entertaining stuff out of him. That, sir, is community service.

[Tiberius]

 

 

I also never made an analogy to Nazi Germany,

Never? You started it you twit!

 

You pretty much have to have some idea of what it is that you're talking about in order to be honest when discussing it, so no. He's not anywhere near capable of being honest while discussing stuff like this. See below.

 

 

This is a perfect example of all you're ever going to get from this guy. Do you remember pajama boy - the snottly little lib wearing a onesie? They use the same technique in "debating" (note the quotation marks) - any kind of reply, no matter how inane, irrevelant, or scatological is adequate. You don't lose an argument unless you stop replying.

 

Watching you try to get any kind of reasonable answer out of Gator is akin to watching Neil Degrasse Tyson discuss astrophysics with a corn dog.

Yup, its so bad pointing out where he is wrong. He started all this Gestapo stuff and now wants to deny it. Pathetic, but at least he has a dimwit idiot like you to defend him. Bravo!