nucci Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) That we gave up an asset for a RB that could have been gotten by getting a similar RB in FA. You're making assumptions that you can never prove. and we get it...you don't like the trade..you made your point Edited March 12, 2015 by nucci
K D Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 I would like to make a bet with you. Can be a signature bet, can be a donation to charity bet but you are extremely wrong on this imo. Just like you were wrong about Kiko and Murray for the same price as Shady. Murray signed a deal for more money even though it was slightly less guaranteed. Add in that he is injury prone, older, and they owe dead for money for Shady this didn't turn out quite as great for the Eagles as you thought. Other things I am willing to bet on: Murray doesn't play all 16 games next year Bradford not only is on the roster for the Eagles but (barring injury) is named the starter Murray is "older" as in 5 months aka they are the same age. He also has 600 less touches than McCoy but that's besides the point. We don't know his contract yet. You can't go by average per as the total value because contracts in the NFL aren't guaranteed so the Eagles might be able to get out of it in 3 yrs for example for cheaper than McCoy's 5 yr deal, we don't know yet. But i do think everyone is shocked to hear how expensive this deal seems to be. Dallas was only going to offer $6M per as per reports. I also agree Murray won't play all 16 games. most RB's in the NFL don't. McCoy won't either if they plan to hand him the ball 25+ times a game. There's no way Chip wants Bradford to be his QB. People were snickering at the press conference at Chip trying to lie about it. He might get stuck with him but it won't be for lack of trying
ddaryl Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) so the Eagles might be able to get out of it in 3 yrs for example for cheaper than McCoy's 5 yr deal, we don't know yet. Yes we can. McCoy had no guaranteed money left on his deal with Philly so they could of cut him anytime they wanted without much of a hit, if they were worried about the money. Its also one of the things Buffalo did to make McCoy happy, give him some guaranteed money back on his contract there is no defending Philly's mindset here. They are paying more money for a RB who at best is equal to McCoy Edited March 12, 2015 by ddaryl
LedyardCTbillsfan Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Yes we can. McCoy had no guaranteed money left on his deal with Philly so they could of cut him anytime they wanted without much of a hit, if they were worried about the money. Its also one of the things Buffalo did to make McCoy happy, give him some guaranteed money back on his contract there is no defending Philly's mindset here. They are paying more money for a RB who at best is equal to McCoy Probably worse than McCoy, Dallas had a good o-line this year, better than the Eagles for sure.
What a Tuel Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Murray is "older" as in 5 months aka they are the same age. He also has 600 less touches than McCoy but that's besides the point. We don't know his contract yet. You can't go by average per as the total value because contracts in the NFL aren't guaranteed so the Eagles might be able to get out of it in 3 yrs for example for cheaper than McCoy's 5 yr deal, we don't know yet. But i do think everyone is shocked to hear how expensive this deal seems to be. Dallas was only going to offer $6M per as per reports. I also agree Murray won't play all 16 games. most RB's in the NFL don't. McCoy won't either if they plan to hand him the ball 25+ times a game. There's no way Chip wants Bradford to be his QB. People were snickering at the press conference at Chip trying to lie about it. He might get stuck with him but it won't be for lack of trying Murray has 600 less touches because he has been injured so often each year. More often than McCoy. It was a huge issue with Murray prior to his career year in 2014. People have short memories.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Murray begged for a contract from the Cowboys and then signed with a division team that plays them twice when he didn't get it. I don't think he'd have much interest in coming to Buffalo.
mikemac2001 Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) 2013 NFL Knee Murray sprained his MCL in week 6 and missed the following 2 games 2012 NFL Leg Murray suffered a hamstring pull in training and missed OTAs 2012 NFL Foot Sprained foot against Baltimore and missed the next 6 games 2011 NFL Ankle DeMarco Murray fractured his right ankle and was placed on IR missing the remaining 3 games. 2011 NFL Leg Missed first 2 preseason games with hamstring issues 2008 College Leg Pulled a hamstring and missed a game 2007 College Knee Dislocated his patella and missed the folliowing 3 games Injury history idc just putting it out there do what u want with it Edited March 12, 2015 by mikemac2001
papazoid Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 bills: shady $5.5 (5yr/$40mil) philly: shady $3.4 (dead money) murray $5.5 (maybe higher) (5yr/$42) total $8.9
K-9 Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Chip Kelly: Super Genius. $51.5m with $27.5 guaranteed to the RB position today. NICE! GO BILLS!!! Edited March 12, 2015 by K-9
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Chip Kelly: Super Genius. $51.5m with $27.5 guaranteed to the RB position today. NICE! GO BILLS!!! genius!
CardinalScotts Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 where is Schoop he's in love with Chip Kelly, telling us Monday how you don't spend money on a runningback.......this does not fit his the argument so do what they always do a WGR pretend you never said it
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Chip Kelly: Super Genius. $51.5m with $27.5 guaranteed to the RB position today. NICE! GO BILLS!!! Wow. That's... a lot.
truth on hold Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Yes we can. McCoy had no guaranteed money left on his deal with Philly so they could of cut him anytime they wanted without much of a hit, if they were worried about the money. Its also one of the things Buffalo did to make McCoy happy, give him some guaranteed money back on his contract there is no defending Philly's mindset here. They are paying more money for a RB who at best is equal to McCoy Yeah they dumped him on us and got kiko, much better than cutting him outright Edited March 13, 2015 by JTSP
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah they dumped him on us and got kiko, much better than cutting him outright "Dumped him on us". You're the worst. The only worse is your knowledge of the game.
RealityCheck Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah they dumped him on us and got kiko, much better than cutting him outright Your style of trolling is a little unorthodox...but effective.
NoSaint Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 "Dumped him on us". You're the worst. The only worse is your knowledge of the game. I am glad you continue the good fight with making this common knowledge for all the newcomers or once in awhile visitors.... Id hate someone accidentally take him serious
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