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I don't see it. I watch a ton of Miami games being in Lauderdale and the guys flashes but isn't close to the Hernandez level as mentioned above (minus the homicides). Tannehill is very inconsistent but that could be attributed to their OL play. Clay is a decent TE but def 2nd tier and shouldn't get that huge pay day. He's the best of a bad situation. And timing is right for him to get paid. But I will gladly eat my words.

At the same point, Tannehill isn't close to Brady. I have very little doubt his numbers are better on the Pats. Personally, I've always been impressed by the guy. The salary seems high until you realize will be going up. IMO, Chandler is a weak #1 TE but Chandler-Clay is a very good combo set. Our QBs need zone busters and guys to be targets for easy completions.

 

But Clay's murdering skills are far inferior than AH's.

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His carrer tards per catch is 11.2

 

 

So pretty much every time this guy touches the ball its a first down.

 

 

CBF

I don't know about Canada, but in the US use of the word "tards" is politically incorrect.
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His 2013 catches:


The biggest thing to pop for me is that he doesn't go down on the first hit. Chandler does nearly every time.
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Yeah, easiest big guy to bring down.

its amazing - for his size, he drops immediately, i dont think ive ever seen him high point a ball, doesnt shield defenders well.... hes the smallest big man ive ever seen. thats not to say hes an awful player, just that he doesnt utilize his size like youd expect.
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its amazing - for his size, he drops immediately, i dont think ive ever seen him high point a ball, doesnt shield defenders well.... hes the smallest big man ive ever seen. thats not to say hes an awful player, just that he doesnt utilize his size like youd expect.

 

Goes down like a sack of potatoes at first contact. To this day I have no idea why Marrone/Hackett called plays to get the ball out to Chandler in the flat -- those plays must have averaged 1.2 yards per catch, with a long of 3 yards.

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Goes down like a sack of potatoes at first contact. To this day I have no idea why Marrone/Hackett called plays to get the ball out to Chandler in the flat -- those plays must have averaged 1.2 yards per catch, with a long of 3 yards.

yup. he seemed to struggle to turn his hips upfield after the catch allowing the defender to get there before he broke, and then just straight to the ground. it seemed like setting him up for failure to have him move horizontally at the line of scrimmage.

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He's like a Chandler but can block... Is my understanding.

But like I wrote above, Clay is tremendous at running after the catch, catching on the run and running over defenders. See that one TD where he dances around and breaks two sure tackles against the Steelers? Sick.

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IMO it seems like most players who went to new teams got "overpaid." It's the new salary cap and the cost of recruiting players away.

 

Very true.

 

If the Bills do sign Clay away from Miami, I just want everyone to be prepared for the contract specifics. I sense it's going to be bigger than most people are expecting, and I'm bracing for the shitstorm of OMG WTF posts afterward.

 

(And then we can proceed to love the guy for his talent and production.)

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But like I wrote above, Clay is tremendous at running after the catch, catching on the run and running over defenders. See that one TD where he dances around and breaks two sure tackles against the Steelers? Sick.

and was in the elements making plays in that game. which is always a perk. sometimes overrated, but i wont complain about a guy that can play in snow.

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At the same point, Tannehill isn't close to Brady. I have very little doubt his numbers are better on the Pats. Personally, I've always been impressed by the guy. The salary seems high until you realize will be going up. IMO, Chandler is a weak #1 TE but Chandler-Clay is a very good combo set. Our QBs need zone busters and guys to be targets for easy completions.

 

But Clay's murdering skills are far inferior than AH's.

How do you figure? Clay has never been caught......

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Very true.

 

If the Bills do sign Clay away from Miami, I just want everyone to be prepared for the contract specifics. I sense it's going to be bigger than most people are expecting, and I'm bracing for the shitstorm of OMG WTF posts afterward.

 

(And then we can proceed to love the guy for his talent and production.)

if rumors are true it will be a contract front loaded with the first year at 9m, structured so that Miami can't match.
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its amazing - for his size, he drops immediately, i dont think ive ever seen him high point a ball, doesnt shield defenders well.... hes the smallest big man ive ever seen. thats not to say hes an awful player, just that he doesnt utilize his size like youd expect.

 

I think there's a lot of selective memory around here. Is he a top-tier TE? No, of course not. But he's an effective guy who would be a fine complement to Clay...

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But like I wrote above, Clay is tremendous at running after the catch, catching on the run and running over defenders. See that one TD where he dances around and breaks two sure tackles against the Steelers? Sick.

And on a TD against the Chargers Chandler would have been tackles two or three times. Sign me up in the sign him up camp!

 

Don't get me wrong, Chandler has a roll and I love his size, but he's not nearly the athlete that Clay is.

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He's like a Chandler but can block... Is my understanding.

Really don't get how someone could watch Clay and think Chandler

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