Chuck Wagon Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Along the lines of what I am thinking too. Funchess makes some sense as well and there are a bunch of good backs. Funchess (hybrid WR/TE) and Clay (hybrid TE/Hback) would be awesome. We could be a two TE power team or a wide open spread team with the same personnel if we got those two.
Max997 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 But if we sign Hughes, doesn't that mean we we have to ignore the offense? Why would it? Bills are around 30 mil under the cap and can always create more space so I don't get why you think resigning Hughes would mean they would hv to ignore the offense.
CNY315 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Why would it? Bills are around 30 mil under the cap and can always create more space so I don't get why you think resigning Hughes would mean they would hv to ignore the offense. Sarcasm
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Funchess (hybrid WR/TE) and Clay (hybrid TE/Hback) would be awesome. We could be a two TE power team or a wide open spread team with the same personnel if we got those two.Funchess is that big target and Clay can do damage as an H-back type. They'd compliment each other nicely and round out our pass catchers. Draft one of those backs in the 3rd (maybe David Johnson) and sign an OL and a Lokcer type in FA. This would greatly improve the offense IMO. They will be much more well-rounded. Edited February 22, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
purple haze Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 im a big fan of clay. and thought the bills should make a move at him if he reaches free agency AMEN! He's the TE I've been wanting the Bills to go after. He's got very good athleticism, plays tough/physical with the ball in his hands, and creates mismatches. He would add the dimension we've wanted from Chris Gragg. It would also put a dent in the Dolphins roster. Win-win for us.
3rdand12 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Two questions. How much will he truly cost? and how susceptible is he to injury. We have had problems with keeping TEs healthy. Don't know if its a Bills thing or what ; )I like the idea very much of drafting and adding complimentary FA for Roman's offense , now that you folks have thought of it !! Some one get on the phone to Whaley
John from Riverside Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Clay is a pretty good blocker to......he is a do it all guy
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Two questions. How much will he truly cost? and how susceptible is he to injury. We have had problems with keeping TEs healthy. Don't know if its a Bills thing or what ; ) I like the idea very much of drafting and adding complimentary FA for Roman's offense , now that you folks have thought of it !! Some one get on the phone to Whaley We've never had a TE to keep healthy . I'd guess that Clay is $7M a year average.
3rdand12 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 We've never had a TE to keep healthy . I'd guess that Clay is $7M a year average. This is an issue !! Thanks for the estimate K J.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 This is an issue !! Thanks for the estimate K J. That would put him on the Jared Cook, Kyle Rudolph range. It's probaly somewhere between $7-$8M with maybe 1/2 guaranteed? Something like 4 years $30m with $15m guaranteed. Just a guess
Rubes Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Why would it? Bills are around 30 mil under the cap and can always create more space so I don't get why you think resigning Hughes would mean they would hv to ignore the offense. See the Hughes thread. Yes, sarcasm.
thebandit27 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I'm fine with Clay as a player; just concerned he's going to want upward of $6M per, which is too much for a guy in his class IMO. Give me Gresham at $4M per instead. That would put him on the Jared Cook, Kyle Rudolph range. It's probaly somewhere between $7-$8M with maybe 1/2 guaranteed? Something like 4 years $30m with $15m guaranteed. Just a guessIsn't Gronk getting $8M per? No way I'm paying Clay like Gronk.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) I'm fine with Clay as a player; just concerned he's going to want upward of $6M per, which is too much for a guy in his class IMO. Give me Gresham at $4M per instead. Isn't Gronk getting $8M per? No way I'm paying Clay like Gronk. He is at $9m. I think that this should give some perspective: http://overthecap.com/position/tight-end/. I feel like with the rising cap he will fall in that 2nd tier financially. He will command less than Julius for sure and probably Cameron. Edited February 22, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
maddenboy Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Bear in mind that, nowadays, we wont be paying our Rookies anything. Especially without a first round rookie. And, its not our money, Its Pegula's. If he wants to spend for a championship, and if his Generals tell him that this is a good place to spend money that must be spent, then i'm all for it. I trust the Generals.
bigK14094 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Bills need a TE who can block and be a receiver. Two functions.......Clay is a hybrid H back type.....already got Grey......and Gragg.....don't need another. Need another starter like who leaves the D guessing if its a run or pass. Clay is more a receiver than blocker.......a 245 he is little compared to what we need....that guy from Detroit would be good IMHO.
Kelly the Dog Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I'm fine with Clay as a player; just concerned he's going to want upward of $6M per, which is too much for a guy in his class IMO. Give me Gresham at $4M per instead. Isn't Gronk getting $8M per? No way I'm paying Clay like Gronk. If Gronk was on the market he would be the highest paid TE in history. That's not a good way to look at it, IMO. Clay is one of my top guys I wanted. Roman loves these kinds of players in his offense. I think we could be very effective with Clay, Chandler and Gray.
Sojourner Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Bills need a TE who can block and be a receiver. Two functions.......Clay is a hybrid H back type.....already got Grey......and Gragg.....don't need another. Need another starter like who leaves the D guessing if its a run or pass. Clay is more a receiver than blocker.......a 245 he is little compared to what we need....that guy from Detroit would be good IMHO. The fact you listed two players which one decent player could suffice says enough. If Gronk was on the market he would be the highest paid TE in history. That's not a good way to look at it, IMO. Clay is one of my top guys I wanted. Roman loves these kinds of players in his offense. I think we could be very effective with Clay, Chandler and Gray. True but he did sign that 6 year extension not so long ago. I mean it is only a matter of time before he wants to restructure a new one and God help the Cheats when he does. That man, if he doesn't have any serious injury in that time frame, will command some serious bank.
GunnerBill Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I'd be happy with Clay. He was my 2nd preference after Cameron but would probably come cheaper. If Clay leaves us enough for another Guard and a QB as well as Hughes I'd take that.
billsfan89 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 If the price is fair then I think its a solid move. Clay would be a good combo with Chandler as Clay is really versatile in blocking and where he can play.
klos63 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I like Clay but don't think he is a true TE which is what the Bills need. He is also injured a lot which concerns me as well. So do you think the Bills don't understand what their needs are regarding the TE position?
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