YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 So they have to beat Miami's offer of $7 mil. Is he really worth $8 mil? I think there are better options but they must think he fits their system. I just hate to spend that much on this guy when we have other needsthey don't need to do anything but offer a long term deal that the Phins can't match. Year 1 will need to be more than the 7m tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 they don't need to do anything but offer a long term deal that the Phins can't match. Year 1 will need to be more than the 7m tag. Would it make more sense to offer before they try to sign Suh or after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Would it make more sense to offer before they try to sign Suh or after?from the bills standpoint they need to do it ASAP because the Phins have a week to let them know if they are going to match. That's a lifetime in FA if the bills need to go to plan b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 from the bills standpoint they need to do it ASAP because the Phins have a week to let them know if they are going to match. That's a lifetime in FA if the bills need to go to plan b. Good point. It would put them in a bind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 from the bills standpoint they need to do it ASAP because the Phins have a week to let them know if they are going to match. That's a lifetime in FA if the bills need to go to plan b. Flip side, they could let Miami blow money day 1 then tie their hands if they are certain this is the guy and only guy they are dying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Flip side, they could let Miami blow money day 1 then tie their hands if they are certain this is the guy and only guy they are dying for. Chris Mortensen @mortreport 43s44 seconds ago Ndamukong Suh will sign with #Dolphins on Tuesday based off parameters around $114 million and $60 million guaranteed, per sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Now is the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Can they really afford Clay on a lucrative deal? Edited March 8, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Can they really afford Clay on a lucrative deal? They could rescind the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 They could rescind the tag.Ah - how long do they have to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Ah - how long do they have to do that? Not sure. I'll look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Not sure. I'll look it up Until he signs it, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leper65 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I thought once they placed the tag on him, the 6+ Million (or whatever) counted against this years cap? They are guaranteeing that salary with the tag unless someone signs him and they don't match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Until he signs it, I believe I think you're right..if they rescind they can not use it next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I thought once they placed the tag on him, the 6+ Million (or whatever) counted against this years cap? They are guaranteeing that salary with the tag unless someone signs him and they don't match it. Yep. At 7 mil. The Bills could make the cap hit a little more and a lot of upfront money which would be tough for Dolphins because of Suh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) They could rescind the tag. I thought that was only for the franchise tag and not the transition tag? Nevermind. They can, they just cant use it again on someone else. Edited March 8, 2015 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I thought that was only for the franchise tag and not the transition tag? This is what I found. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12409393/te-charles-clay-miami-dolphins-designated-transition-tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 This is what I found. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12409393/te-charles-clay-miami-dolphins-designated-transition-tag Yea, I found that and wiki's explanation too. Out of curiosity (not for you specifically but anyone with cap knowledge), if we gave him a big cap hit (say 8-9mil) this year to strap Miami and then even out his hit later, do they have to match the offer exactly or just total dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Yea, I found that and wiki's explanation too. Out of curiosity (not for you specifically but anyone with cap knowledge), if we gave him a big cap hit (say 8-9mil) this year to strap Miami and then even out his hit later, do they have to match the offer exactly or just total dollars? Pretty sure it's exactly. Literally match word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Yea, I found that and wiki's explanation too. Out of curiosity (not for you specifically but anyone with cap knowledge), if we gave him a big cap hit (say 8-9mil) this year to strap Miami and then even out his hit later, do they have to match the offer exactly or just total dollars? It's literally the exact contract to the letter, you just swap team names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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