B-Man Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Why did this "spying" silliness come out now? The reason is obvious. Obama officials know the Iran talks are in trouble and leaked the Israeli-spying story to change the subject. There is growing bipartisan opposition to the huge concessions made by the United States in the negotiations. Many members of Congress believe a final deal with Iran will be a weak, short duration agreement that will legitimize Iran’s nuclear program and increase tensions in the Middle East. Moreover, according to recent press report, Iran is pushing for more concessions while France is trying to toughen a final deal. What worries me most about this clumsy Obama-administration attack on Netanyahu is how it will feed growing anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic sentiments from the left in the United States, especially from the far left. The administration should be standing behind Israel, not generating opposition to it among its radical supporters by leaking stories like this. Our Arab Allies Are Watching in Horror as Obama Allies with Iran by Mario Loyola In this cartoon from the March 18 edition of Saudi newspaper Al-Watan, Iranian leader Khamenei is shooting at Syrian Sunnis and Iraqi Sunnis from under an American umbrella. Saudi Arabia and the other Sunni Arab states are watching in horror as the U.S. increasingly openly switches sides from supporting them to supporting their (and our) worst enemy in the region. Obama’s rapprochement with Iran is so wrong at so many levels it’s hard to know where to begin. But to put it in historical perspective, it’s as if, in 1989, the U.S. has led a massive assistance package and diplomatic effort to extend the life of Soviet Communism, and its subjugation of Eastern Europe, for another 30 years. When Obama got to the White House, the Islamic Revolution of Iran was entering its fourth decade without having succeeded anywhere outside Iran except for Lebanon, in the form of the Hezbollah. (The essential bridge between Iran and Hezbollah was Syria, a majority Sunni country whose dictators are Allawite Baathist, not part of the Islamic Revolution at all). Its economy was starting to suffer the catastrophic effects of sanctions. The U.S. was the dominant stabilizing force in Iraq, underwriting the risks of a coalition of moderate Sunnis and moderate Shiites, who were openly allied with the U.S. and openly opposed to the extremists in both camps. Now Iranian soldiers can march virtually all the way across Iraq into Syria and Lebanon not just unimpeded, but under American air cover! Obama has apparently decided to let Iran keep numerous elements of a nuclear-weapons program and sanctions relief to the tune of billions of dollars per month. His hands-tied-behind-our-backs battle against ISIS is totally ignoring the main enemy in the Middle East, which is not al-Qaeda or ISIS, but Iran. (A point former general David Petraeus explained in a recent Washington Post interview.) We are witnessing one of the most spectacular implosions in the history of American foreign policy, with lasting damage to the whole U.S. position in the Middle East and to our whole system of regional alliances. The next president will have no choice but to climb out of this disastrous hole somehow, and yet Obama is digging it as fast as he can. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Our Arab Allies Are Watching in Horror as Obama Allies with Iran I question whether this administration even recognizes that our allies in the Persian Gulf region even have an interest in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I question whether this administration even recognizes that our allies in the Persian Gulf region even have an interest in this. Do you? Really? REALLY? I think that's beyond question. This administration is utterly clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) http://scrappleface.com/2015/03/24/iran-agrees-to-amend-official-curse-death-to-america/ (2015-03-24) — In what the State Department calls a “major breakthrough” in bilateral negotiations with Iran over nuclear weapons, the Islamic Republic has agreed to amend its official curse “Death to America,” softening it to “Goiters on America.” “Obviously, President Obama’s investment in direct talks with Iranian leaders is paying dividends,” said Secretary of State John Kerry. “While an enlarged thyroid gland can be painful, goiters are generally just inconvenient and unsightly. I’ve spoken with President Obama, and we can live with goiters.” As recently as this week, the Islamic Republic’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini endorsed a chanting crowd’s call for “Death to America.” “The Ayatollah still thinks the ideal curse is ‘Death to America,'” said a spokesman, “but he is not altogether unreasonable. He’s willing to moderate the curse for the term of the nuclear agreement, in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions.” Edited March 24, 2015 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 http://scrappleface.com/2015/03/24/iran-agrees-to-amend-official-curse-death-to-america/ (2015-03-24) — In what the State Department calls a “major breakthrough” in bilateral negotiations with Iran over nuclear weapons, the Islamic Republic has agreed to amend its official curse “Death to America,” softening it to “Goiters on America.” “Obviously, President Obama’s investment in direct talks with Iranian leaders is paying dividends,” said Secretary of State John Kerry. “While an enlarged thyroid gland can be painful, goiters are generally just inconvenient and unsightly. I’ve spoken with President Obama, and we can live with goiters.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The presidential temper tantrum continues... US Declassifies Israel Nuclear Program Docs The timing of the revelation is highly suspect, given that it came as tensions spiraled out of control between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama ahead of Netanyahu's March 3 address in Congress, in which he warned against the dangers of Iran's nuclear program and how the deal being formed on that program leaves the Islamic regime with nuclear breakout capabilities. Another highly suspicious aspect of the document is that while the Pentagon saw fit to declassify sections on Israel's sensitive nuclear program, it kept sections on Italy, France, West Germany and other NATO countries classified, with those sections blocked out in the document. It's like being governed by a 4th grade girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Considering that our foreign policy in Yemen is a "success", I have the fullest confidence in this administrations ability to forge a fair and equitable Nuclear deal with Iran. Edited March 26, 2015 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The presidential temper tantrum continues... US Declassifies Israel Nuclear Program Docs It's like being governed by a 4th grade girl. Worse. A 23 year old university grad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The presidential temper tantrum continues... US Declassifies Israel Nuclear Program Docs It's like being governed by a 4th grade girl. The most frightening thing is that he thinks he's being subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Considering that our foreign policy in Yemen is a "success", I have the fullest confidence in this administrations ability to forge a fair and equitable Nuclear deal with Iran. This is probably the single most perfect example of the state of the WH foreign policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This is probably the single most perfect example of the state of the WH foreign policy. And I once again feel compelled to point out that the high point of this administration's foreign policy was the goddamn reset button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 US Declassifies Israel Nuclear Program Docs I must say reading the comment section was informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) They want a deal no matter HOW MUCH they have to give up.......................... USA to allow Iran to run nuke centrifuges at underground bunker... I mean, really, what can you do with hundreds of centrifuges in a hardened bunker. Not much. Except enrich uranium to 20-95 percent I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's hard to see this in any other way than Obama *wants* Iran to have nuclear weapons. . ADDED: Things Really Seem to Be Going Great with These Iran Negotiations LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) — The United States is considering letting Tehran run hundreds of centrifuges at a once-secret, fortified underground bunker in exchange for limits on centrifuge work and research and development at other sites, officials have told The Associated Press. The trade-off would allow Iran to run several hundred of the devices at its Fordo facility, although the Iranians would not be allowed to do work that could lead to an atomic bomb and the site would be subject to international inspections, according to Western officials familiar with details of negotiations now underway. In return, Iran would be required to scale back the number of centrifuges it runs at its Natanz facility and accept other restrictions on nuclear-related work. I’m sure there are more consequential giveaways but letting Iran carry out their “research” work in a location that would be especially hard for the U.S. or others to destroy in the event of repeated violations or diplomatic failure seems . . . questionable.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Edited March 26, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 They want a deal no matter HOW MUCH they have to give up.......................... USA to allow Iran to run nuke centrifuges at underground bunker... I mean, really, what can you do with hundreds of centrifuges in a hardened bunker. Not much. Except enrich uranium to 20-95 percent I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's hard to see this in any other way than Obama *wants* Iran to have nuclear weapons. . ADDED: Things Really Seem to Be Going Great with These Iran Negotiations LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) — The United States is considering letting Tehran run hundreds of centrifuges at a once-secret, fortified underground bunker in exchange for limits on centrifuge work and research and development at other sites, officials have told The Associated Press. The trade-off would allow Iran to run several hundred of the devices at its Fordo facility, although the Iranians would not be allowed to do work that could lead to an atomic bomb and the site would be subject to international inspections, according to Western officials familiar with details of negotiations now underway. In return, Iran would be required to scale back the number of centrifuges it runs at its Natanz facility and accept other restrictions on nuclear-related work. I’m sure there are more consequential giveaways but letting Iran carry out their “research” work in a location that would be especially hard for the U.S. or others to destroy in the event of repeated violations or diplomatic failure seems . . . questionable.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner By the middle of next week we'll be offering to enrich uranium for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 By the middle of next week we'll be offering to enrich uranium for them. Success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) This is probably the single most perfect example of the state of the WH foreign policy. WTF? Edited March 26, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 By the middle of next week we'll be offering to enrich uranium for them. Or just take the shortcut of sending over a few nukes from our arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It’s no secret that President Obama is in Florida this weekend to play some golf, but don’t expect any reports about his golf game. For whatever reason, the White House declared a news lid just as the president was about to tee off. Rather than head back to their hotel 15 miles away, however, the press pool voted instead to take shelter in a maintenance shed so as to remain somewhat close to the president. Reporters refuse Obama's dismissal from golf course, are sent to the 'shed'In its latest attempt to shut down media coverage, the White House Saturday dismissed reporters to their Florida hotel by declaring a news "lid" even though President Obama was just beginning his golf game — but the press pool voted to stay. After a two hour flight, Obama motorcaded to the posh Floridian National Golf Club in Palm City to play a round and also stay. {snip} The trip will cost taxpayers $843,508 in airfare alone. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/reporters-refuse-obamas-dismissal-from-golf-course-are-sent-to-the-shed/article/2562204#.VRcTlIH8Zuk.twitter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Bunch of people complaining about smart, well intentioned people trying to make the best of a serious situation. Iran knows they have the upper hand, that the west, Israel and the Sunni dictatorships can't do too much to stop them from eventually getting a bomb. Maybe if Saddam was still in power...oh never mind Do you guys think we should attack Iran? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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