PlayoffsPlease Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Suh probably just set the market for top interior defensive lineman at $60 million guaranteed (114 mm overall). Dareus probably hopes for that much but also has a full year of performance and injury risk before hitting the free agent market. Would he be willing to take a 20% discount off that contract, 90 million total, 50 million guaranteed to make sure he is set for life, regardless of what happens this year. And would the Bills be wise to make that investment now in order to save the cap space in the future?
Dragonborn10 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 No he won't take any discount. He gets highest paid defender nothing less. He is destined for the tag or he walks without top money. So far Cobb is the only player to take less money and he is only above average. With the cap growing every year the players are not signing early deals. Suh didn't and Dareus wont either. Best chance to get an early deal is Glenn.
TC in St. Louis Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 He's great, but Suh is in his own universe. Aaron Donald, rookie from St. Louis, was named All-Pro over both of them.
Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 There's no incentive for Dareus to take anything less than the most he can possibly get on the open market. And the Bills will pay it.
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 On 3/8/2015 at 7:20 PM, PlayoffsPlease said: Suh probably just set the market for top interior defensive lineman at $60 million guaranteed (114 mm overall). Dareus probably hopes for that much but also has a full year of performance and injury risk before hitting the free agent market. Would he be willing to take a 20% discount off that contract, 90 million total, 50 million guaranteed to make sure he is set for life, regardless of what happens this year. And would the Bills be wise to make that investment now in order to save the cap space in the future? That's a pretty big discount. No way.
Zac Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Dareus was better than Suh last year. If I was his agent i would just counter every offer with a different highlight of our defense getting gashed in the Oakland game. Edited March 8, 2015 by Zac
Webster Guy Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/8/2015 at 8:00 PM, GreggyT said: There's no incentive for Dareus to take anything less than the most he can possibly get on the open market. And the Bills will pay it. you're missing the point. He is saying Marcel could.sign a contract before the season and guarantee himself $40+ million. If he blows out a knee this year he could end.up with zero. Thats a huge incentive.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 3:37 AM, Webster Guy said: you're missing the point. He is saying Marcel could.sign a contract before the season and guarantee himself $40+ million. If he blows out a knee this year he could end.up with zero. Thats a huge incentive. It's a consideration. If the discount is proportional to the risk, its a discussion- players don't have a 20% chance of career ending injury. It's probably closer to 1%?
Green Lightning Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 3:37 AM, Webster Guy said: you're missing the point. He is saying Marcel could.sign a contract before the season and guarantee himself $40+ million. If he blows out a knee this year he could end.up with zero. Thats a huge incentive. Interesting concept. Risky but interesting. Imagine this cap discussion if we had a franchise QB to pay for.
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 do something like 5 years 75 mil all guaranteed.
What a Tuel Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 3:49 AM, Green Lightning said: Interesting concept. Risky but interesting. Imagine this cap discussion if we had a franchise QB to pay for. We don't though and we should be using that cap money to make the rest of the team capable of overcoming our deficiency at QB, rather than pretending there is one out there just waiting for us to pick him up. With the top qbs all on their way out, our franchise QB will come from the draft with a 4 year rookie contract.
Uffalo Ills Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 4:51 AM, What a Tuel said: We don't though and we should be using that cap money to make the rest of the team capable of overcoming our deficiency at QB, rather than pretending there is one out there just waiting for us to pick him up. With the top qbs all on their way out, our franchise QB will come from the draft with a 4 year rookie contract. I disagree. You might think waiting until next season is too long a wait, but the FA class next year is improved and our franchise QB might emerge
nucci Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 3:50 AM, aristocrat said: do something like 5 years 75 mil all guaranteed. not a chance. Glad you're not negotiating for the Bills On 3/9/2015 at 5:59 AM, Uffalo Ills said: I disagree. You might think waiting until next season is too long a wait, but the FA class next year is improved and our franchise QB might emerge and if Dareus refuses to sign and wants to wait until next year........?
peterpan Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 JJ watt took a big time discount and he knows it. That's very respectable of him. Who says Dareus won't do the same??
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 with the big $ staying with Shady in 2015, I think it will be later this season of 1st thing in 2016
Uffalo Ills Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 11:44 AM, nucci said: and if Dareus refuses to sign and wants to wait until next year........? Cap set to rise, if thats what youre worried about. Also, its not like Whaley and Brandon cant negotiate with more than one person at a time. I dont exactly get this imaginary conflict here, but if it makes you happy, we could waste stupid money on a career back up this year, or waste a pick on terrible one. Otherwise we could extend Dareus and we'd be all good...
nucci Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 On 3/9/2015 at 1:32 PM, Uffalo Ills said: Cap set to rise, if thats what youre worried about. Also, its not like Whaley and Brandon cant negotiate with more than one person at a time. I dont exactly get this imaginary conflict here, but if it makes you happy, we could waste stupid money on a career back up this year, or waste a pick on terrible one. Otherwise we could extend Dareus and we'd be all good... I'm not worried about anything...cap space, contracts...just excited about what the Bills are doing
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