fansince88 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Yes to all of the above. That said, Levitre hasn't exactly earned the preposterous money that lured him away from OBD. Agree with that too.
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 Yes to all of the above. That said, Levitre hasn't exactly earned the preposterous money that lured him away from OBD. the issue wasn't letting him walk for that money, it was that we couldn't adequately replace him. The FA decision in a vacuum was the right one.
jahnyc Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Levitre played well in Buffalo. Not sure if it was a difference in schemes or because of injuries that he has not performed well for the Titans. McCoy should be an upgrade, but at what price? His cap hit is approximately $10 million, and we traded Kiko (a former second round pick) and are not re-signing Spiller (a former first round pick). Does not seem like good overall value to me, which seems to happen a lot with the Bills. Letting quality free agents depart can be the right decision, as long as you have quality replacements for those players. This has been the problem for the Bills.
Rubes Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Levitre played well in Buffalo. Not sure if it was a difference in schemes or because of injuries that he has not performed well for the Titans. McCoy should be an upgrade, but at what price? His cap hit is approximately $10 million, and we traded Kiko (a former second round pick) and are not re-signing Spiller (a former first round pick). Does not seem like good overall value to me, which seems to happen a lot with the Bills. Letting quality free agents depart can be the right decision, as long as you have quality replacements for those players. This has been the problem for the Bills. So McCoy should be an upgrade, but not re-signing Spiller is a problem? McCoy replaces Spiller. If you're worried about the cap hit, don't worry too much. The hit goes down next year, and they can always restructure to spread it out better (which they almost certainly will). I don't see the problem here. It really sounds like it comes down to trading away Kiko for you. Yet free agency hasn't even started yet, so we don't yet know what will replace his absence, or even, as others have suggested, if we don't particularly need another OLB. Either way, it seems a lot more prudent to be patient and see how this plays out.
TheFunPolice Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I'm still browsing this thread looking for the blue twitter text!
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 I'm still browsing this thread looking for the blue twitter text!which one?
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Levitre played well in Buffalo. Not sure if it was a difference in schemes or because of injuries that he has not performed well for the Titans. McCoy should be an upgrade, but at what price? His cap hit is approximately $10 million, and we traded Kiko (a former second round pick) and are not re-signing Spiller (a former first round pick). Does not seem like good overall value to me, which seems to happen a lot with the Bills. Letting quality free agents depart can be the right decision, as long as you have quality replacements for those players. This has been the problem for the Bills. The team let Byrd walk last year and the defense was fine and this year not having his contract on the books is a good thing. Levitre got a ludicrous deal from the Titans and the team couldn't match or come close to that offer. The team didn't replace Levitre properly but not tying up that kind of resources to a guard of his caliber (Good but not top 3-4 at his position) was a smart move. So letting Spiller who was ineffective most of the time walk is a good thing. The Kiko trade might not work out but at least the offense got much more dynamic with McCoy and Kiko might have asked out of Buffalo anyway. There is a lot of value in knowing who to let walk and who to bring in. Hopefully the team makes the right call on just how much Hughes is worth.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I'm still browsing this thread looking for the blue twitter text! Haha; me too. And the only thing I see is a bunch of F5's.
Beef Jerky Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 the issue wasn't letting him walk for that money, it was that we couldn't adequately replace him. The FA decision in a vacuum was the right one. Didn't they not even make him an offer?
billieve420 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Haha; me too. And the only thing I see is a bunch of F5's. F5 F5 F5 haha
jahnyc Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) I did not think that the Bills should pay Spiller the $4.5 million that was supposedly offered, but I also do not think that McCoy is worth more than $10 million per year. Running backs are not as valued, have short careers and this seems to be a strong draft for running backs. I get it that the Bills likely will restructure McCoy's deal, but I assume it will still have significant short and long term cap ramifications, particularly if base salaries are converted to bonuses. Clearly, the Bills defense played well last year without Kiko, but if they lose Hughes and Spikes, will the defense be as strong this year? I must admit, I also was looking forward to seeing how Kiko would perform in Ryan's defense, but it appears that Ryan did not think he was a fit. Edited March 7, 2015 by jahnyc
chris heff Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I'm still browsing this thread looking for the blue twitter text! Me too
dayman Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I did not think that the Bills should pay Spiller the $4.5 million that was supposedly offered, but I also do not think that McCoy is worth more than $10 million per year. Running backs are not as valued, have short careers and this seems to be a strong draft for running backs. I get it that the Bills likely will restructure McCoy's deal, but I assume it will still have significant short and long term cap ramifications, particularly if base salaries are converted to bonuses. Clearly, the Bills defense played well last year without Kiko, but if they lose Hughes and Spikes, will the defense be as strong this year? I must admit, I also was looking forward to seeing how Kiko would perform in Ryan's defense, but it appears that Ryan did not think he was a fit. RB is important to this team, more so than to the average NFL team I think. It's ok to have more $ tied in that position than most teams.
TheFunPolice Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 which one? Any one will do! As long as it says Hughes is coming back!
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 Any one will do! As long as it says Hughes is coming back!oh - haha, I'm fairly certain that would get a new thread
Jerry Jabber Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Sal Capaccio @SalSports 14s15 seconds ago This reported new deal for McCoy COULD BE the precursor to getting Hughes locked up before Tuesday. Frees up some $. Let's hope and see.
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 Sal bringing the sunshine the last couple days lol
Reed83HOF Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Sal Capaccio @SalSports 14s15 seconds ago This reported new deal for McCoy COULD BE the precursor to getting Hughes locked up before Tuesday. Frees up some $. Let's hope and see. We still have cap room and this shouldn't prevent us from signing him right now...Although yes it does help for others pieces we want to add...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 We still have cap room and this shouldn't prevent us from signing him right now...Although yes it does help for others pieces we want to add... The Bills will still need to add a TE (or two), an O-lineman (either Guard or Tackle), and may add another LB. While I hope Hughes gets resigned, the Bills shouldn't over pay him with the needs they have, plus Dareus' contract coming up next year.
nucci Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 The Bills will still need to add a TE (or two), an O-lineman (either Guard or Tackle), and may add another LB. While I hope Hughes gets resigned, the Bills shouldn't over pay him with the needs they have, plus Dareus' contract coming up next year. Plenty of cap space to sign anyone they want.....vets will be released this year and next to free up more. Cap goes up again next year......I promise last time I bring this up!!...........(maybe)
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