Chandler#81 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 How big of an influence do you think Martin had on it? Obviously huge, but do you think he could have taken, say Herman's Hermits, Gerry and the Pacemakers, or any of the other British Invasion bands and turned them into what the Beatles became? Good question! Martin's influences were in producing big band/orchestrations prior to his Beatles gig. Its well documented that he added or suggested additional instruments, different tempo's, session musicians. His recording skills were essential as the 1st synthesizers, multi-tack recording and even stereo were being invented and introduced. The music world dropped dead in their tracks when Sgt. Pepper was released. Beach Boys followed suit quickly -along these lines- and it catapulted them to incredible heights as well. To your question, yes, with the advent of fantastic new technology and bona fide success in musical production, I presume he could have done the same with the bands you mentioned. It was a moment in time and these 5 talented guys happened to be together messing with it. It was about to happen anyway. Somebody had to be first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 George Martin produced America, and they still sucked. He also produced Cheap Trick's All Shook Up, the album where IMO they jumped the shark. I think his contributions to the Beatles were over-rated myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Rick Ruben. Best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 George Martin produced America, and they still sucked. He also produced Cheap Trick's All Shook Up, the album where IMO they jumped the shark. I think his contributions to the Beatles were over-rated myself. George Martin produced Blow by Blow. jeff Becks first solo album and all instrumental. To this day it is still considered one of the best rock/blues/ jazz fusion albums of all time. of course Jeff Beck had a lot to do with that. he also produced Becks instrumental version of the Beatles A day in the life. Which may have won him a Grammy for. Too lazy to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Rick Ruben. Best ever. Anybody that can produce The Beastie Boys, Johnny Cash, and ZZ Top's most recent album (which was awesome, BTW. Went back to their pre eliminator blues-rock roots.) is cool with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Anybody that can produce The Beastie Boys, Johnny Cash, and ZZ Top's most recent album (which was awesome, BTW. Went back to their pre eliminator blues-rock roots.) is cool with me. Chili Peppers - BSSM Cult - Electric The list goes on and on. The guy is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Chili Peppers - BSSM Cult - Electric The list goes on and on. The guy is a genius. Wandering Spirit is a most excellent album. Compare that to the total crap produced for the Stones by the hack Don Was. George Martin produced Blow by Blow. jeff Becks first solo album and all instrumental. To this day it is still considered one of the best rock/blues/ jazz fusion albums of all time. of course Jeff Beck had a lot to do with that. he also produced Becks instrumental version of the Beatles A day in the life. Which may have won him a Grammy for. Too lazy to look. Well you got me there. Blow By Blow is great, and I also like Wired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wandering Spirit is a most excellent album. Compare that to the total crap produced for the Stones by the hack Don Was. Well you got me there. Blow By Blow is great, and I also like Wired. I was never much of a Jeff Beck enthusiast, but I had both of those albums and they are gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It asked who was the better band, not who created the best rock and roll. Considering the only instrument Mick can play is his lips -- the Beatles are clearly the winner. Not true. Mick also apparently played David Bowie's skin flute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not true. Mick also apparently played David Bowie's skin flute. Too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just picked this up today. Decent read so far. About three chapters in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The ultimate throwdown. Pick a side. Hey, what about the DC5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Well jimmy miller is dead rico. Don was is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 This is the book. First file didn't attatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 http://duelingdata.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-beatles.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Not true. Mick also apparently played David Bowie's skin flute. Mick plays guitar, keyboards, harmonica, and drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Finally, this will settle it: Beatles Vs. Stones 4.0 out of 5 stars (2) Lake Charles Civic Ctr Rosa Hart Theatre, Lake Charles, LAWed, Aug 3, 2016 07:30 PMOnsale Times | Price Range http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B00509BB60E7681 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think The Kinks deserve an honerable mention too. Their catalogue is pretty outstanding. no. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 no. jw I thought you knew what you were talking about up until now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 The kinks do deserve an honorable mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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