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When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line.

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When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line.

Agreed. It's nothing against Cassel. He's had a solid career after never playing in college. But he is what he is. Same with Orton.

 

EJ needs to earn it but if it's close, IMO, you give the edge to EJ. As low as his percentage of being a franchise qb, we have a 10 year track record of Him not being good enough.

 

Love him as a backup/ mentor though. I think Orton was a douche and Cassel seems like a good dude.

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When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line.

Orton was all but retired when his ties were cut with Dallas in early summer. KO sat at home doing nothing until Buffalo called.

 

KO went back into retirement instead of getting flattened for 16 of 17 continuous Sundays!

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It cant fall apart it has already been completed. Cassell wasnt a FA

 

Neither were McCoy and Alonso and that had to be finalized today. Not sure what is going on though.

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I dunno, but they just said on NFL insiders like 2 minutes ago that something was going on with the trade and it may fall apart. Has the team officially announced his arrival yet?

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It cant fall apart it has already been completed. Cassell wasnt a FA

 

Wrong. It hasn't been completed and hasn't been announced officially today. So it still could fall apart.

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Report: The #Bills-#Vikings Matt Cassel trade is contingent on a physical. Cassel has not yet reported for that physical.

 

Wasn't their a report Cassel wasn't happy traded to the Bills?

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I can think of a couple reasons why this could fall apart.

 

Either the Vilings got a better offer from another team or the Bills have decided to go in another direction.

 

Another possibility of what could hv happened is maybe the trade was contingent on Cassel taking a pay cut as part of restructured contract and they couldn't agree.

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I thought I saw earlier that the Bills will announce Cassell tomorrow at a noon press conference. I don't know though. I've looked at so much stuff today.

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Report: The #Bills-#Vikings Matt Cassel trade is contingent on a physical. Cassel has not yet reported for that physical.

 

Wasn't their a report Cassel wasn't happy traded to the Bills?

If Cassell wasn't happy about the trade then he should retire. It's the best possible available situation for him in the NFL.

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Define very solid NFL QB

 

Fitz could be described as very solid NFL QB, so too could Alex Smith and a Russel Wilson

some 2014 stats to compare

EJ Manuel Comp % 58.0, YPG 167.6

Meh Cassel Comp % 57.7, YPG 141.7

 

I am not trashing Meh, l am just saying if the 2 are = let the younger guy play!

I see that you are up to your old tricks again. "Meh" Cassel? Listen I don't like him that much either but you have to admit he's shown more in this league that EJ Womanuel, right? I mean Cassel had a great 2010 in which he threw for 27 TD's, 7 INT's and took his team to the playoffs. What has Womanuel shown us? I think it will be a tough competition between Cassel and Womanuel if that's the way it shakes out but I still think I'd give Cassel the nod. We'll see.

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