nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 you can pick a guy like that up in the 7th round. I heard they are only about ten cents. Each??
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Each??Shady needs to change his twitter handle to @cutondimeadozen
nucci Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 So the eagles got rid of a 26 yr old rb and are going for a 31 yr old.. ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 9s9 seconds ago Eagles reportedly want Frank Gore http://wp.me/p14QSB-9ISv and Chip Kelly will be called a genius again
mikemac2001 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Frank gore is on the incline once pooh bear signs him
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Frank gore is on the incline once pooh bear signs himever since I watched that video where the guy called chip Winnie the Pooh I cannot see his face without laughing
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 No, I'm dead serious, would thrown in a smiley or 2 had I been sarcastic. God knows I can be wrong but those are my honest feelings about this trade even after letting it sink for all this time. As much as I like Bradham as a hard hitter, he's no Alonso. Same goes for Powell. Alonso is something special, dude is everywhere. Sure McCoy is too, so it comes down to whichever is harder to find, in my book that'd be Alonso. Which part? His 2.3 average behind an injured line? whaley may have a LB he really likes in the draft. Rex decided Kiko was expendable based on his scheme. They got a great player for a struggling offense in return. I disagree it's harder to find a LB in the draft than a great RB. Whaley replaced Kiko with a 3rd rd pick last year.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 This trade worries me, first of all we're getting a player that is vocal about not wanting to come, secondly that player only has about 2-3 years left in the tank, thirdly the player that we're trading away wants to be here fourthly the player we're getting performed like garbage behind a bad line fifthly runningbacks can be gotten cheap in the draft nowadays, last couple of drafts they didnt start coming off untill 3rd and 4th round sixthly we'd better be getting a first rounder back with those undisclosed picks seventhly we've been trying to get pro bowl talent level LB's for years now and when we finally get one we let him go after one season played. Other thoughts, pro bowl versus pro bowl potential is a wash imho. Once Rex is gone (2-3 years) we'll be regretting this trade badly. Why in the world do we trade away which is arguably one of our best players. I'm struggling to see anything positive coming out of this trade; sure he's a FredEx replacement that is needed but given how well a RB can perform coming out of the draft and Fred having one more year in him that should be ample time to get the WR skills of a draftee up to speed come season 2. LB's take time to develop, having one that performs so well straight out of the draft is rather rare and a show of huge further potential. I know the media and eagles fans are portraying McCoy as the better player but I think that time will proof it to be the other way around. Then the Hughes trade aside, we always seem to get the short end of the straw in these type of deals. First, we're getting a player who has been directly quoted saying [........] <-- nothing. We've had quotes from someone who talked to "A source close to McCoy", which is clearly very robust and reliable as a means to get at how someone really feels because it works so well for girls in Middle School Second some running backs last into their 30s, even if he declines the infamous "running back curve" would say we likely have 4 years of league-leading numbers left, and we're clearly trying to build a team that can win NOW with a mediocre QB. Thirdly there have been just as good (read: thirdhand unreliable) sources claiming Kiko wanted out. I don't believe them any more than the McCoy sources. Fourthly your definition of "Garbage" was 4th in the league for YPG, 3rd in the league for yards, and a very respectable 4.2 ypc behind a garbage line last year. Fifth while RB can be gotten "cheap" in the draft, proven league-leading players who can both run, catch, and block are a different matter. Put up a table showing how many RB drafted in any round go there, eh? Sixth what? What? Getting a first rounder back? Undisclosed picks? Are you mixing up trades and talking about the Cassel trade? A fifth and next years 7th for a 6th and Cassel good luck getting a 1st rounder for that. Look, Kiko is a very promising player, no question, but he's also coming off ACL surgery, already tore his other ACL a few years back, the D was top-5 without him - the tea leaves say he can be spared. If I trust Whaley's talent evaluation and judgement at any position, that would be linebacker.
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Chris Trapasso retweeted Jeff McLane @Jeff_McLane 2m2 minutes ago LeSean McCoy and #Bills have agreed upon new 5-yr contract once trade w/ #Eagles is finalized on Tues, per NFL sources. Told it's a whopper.
Punch Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 New detail, although it was expected: @john_kucko: Per @Jeff_McLane, LeSean McCoy to get 5 year deal from #Bills, frontloaded with guaranteed $ #BillsMafia http://t.co/nRCfC8i6ip
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 All of a sudden Buffalo looking pretty good to shady. Gotta love Pegs.
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 7s7 seconds ago LeSean MCoy gets $16m in 2015 from Bills. Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 45s45 seconds ago LeSean McCoy and Bills have agreed on a $16M first year total with $26.5M total guaranteed and $40M over 5 years, per @RosenhausSports
The Poojer Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 can the resident capologists tell us what that does for our cap space? ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 7s7 seconds ago LeSean MCoy gets $16m in 2015 from Bills. Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 45s45 seconds ago LeSean McCoy and Bills have agreed on a $16M first year total with $26.5M total guaranteed and $40M over 5 years, per @RosenhausSports
jletha Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Wow. Now I think we may have overpayed. I'm not sure he can possibly live up to it. Edited March 8, 2015 by jletha
NoSaint Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 7s7 seconds ago LeSean MCoy gets $16m in 2015 from Bills. Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 45s45 seconds ago LeSean McCoy and Bills have agreed on a $16M first year total with $26.5M total guaranteed and $40M over 5 years, per @RosenhausSports But that 16m if done as 4m salary and 12m bonus will be a 6.5m cap hit, for reference and the deal keeps him at the 8m average..... Not terrible (those numbers made up as an example of how they could do more cash but lower the hit)
mikemac2001 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 can the resident capologists tell us what that does for our cap space? So confused is this good Sounds like good long term but could hurt cap for this year but I have no idea
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 @MikeGarafolo: Of that $16m in the first year for LeSean McCoy, $13m comes as a monster signing bonus. Total value of the deal: $40m over 5 years. @Jason_OTC: Looks like McCoys first year salary cap number will be $5.6 million (using numbers from @MikeGarafolo ) #Bills Calm down, armchair capologists
Andrew Son Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 @MikeGarafolo: Of that $16m in the first year for LeSean McCoy, $13m comes as a monster signing bonus. Total value of the deal: $40m over 5 years. @Jason_OTC: Looks like McCoys first year salary cap number will be $5.6 million (using numbers from @MikeGarafolo ) #Bills Calm down, armchair capologists Awesome!
The Poojer Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 found this in a different thread...thanks to the poster for the projected info http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/176683-bills-mccoy-agree-on-new-5-yr-contract/?p=3484134 can the resident capologists tell us what that does for our cap space?
section122 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Here is what I saw on another site. 5.5 in 2015 7.675 in 2016 8.875 in 2017 8.95 in 2018 9.05 in 2019 Not sure about accuracy but the numbers work. Will be interesting to see what is guaranteed in 18 and 19.
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