DDD Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Kiko was overrated in his one season with us . We did not miss him this past season . LeSean McCoy is a star RB. Probably one of the best open field runners right now. So if trade pushes through , this should be a big win assuming we can open up running lanes . That logic to justify this trade is laughable.
Dr. K Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) I have pretty much hated all the moves the Bills have made since Marone left. I had not much use for Maron, but I hated the Rex hire. Hate this trade. Right now I am in "show me" mode. I have been a ver patient fan but I have no belief in this team right now. Edited March 4, 2015 by Dr. K
stevestojan Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 The board is holding up nicely to this bombshell, by the way. Very snappy!
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 don't let the door hit you on that way out. And the door back onto the wagon will be locked to your ilk...... nice. you said ilk. and you may have used it correctly. hell if i know
klos63 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 @YardsPerPass: A couple people asked why Kiko is bad fit w/ Rex... Kiko best as run and chase guy and not having to take on blocks. 4-3 WLB What linebacker wouldn't be great if they didn't have to take on blocks? Why do people think outside linebackers don't get blocked.?
stevestojan Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I have pretty much hated all the moves the Bills have made since Marone left. Hated the Rex hire. Hate this trade. Right now I am in "show me" mode. I have been a ver patient fan but I have no belief in this team right now. You've lost belief now? Months after a season where we were talking Wild Card in December, with a crazy good defense, and we just added one of the top 3 RBs in the league? Interesting time to lose hope, to say the least.
DDD Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Man I am going to miss those Campbells commercials! CBF
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I agree that I like the fact Whaley is making moves. I expect to see more In FA. Whaley has a plan and I believe he and Rex are on the same page which is huge. I wanted to see Kiko in Rex's system but I know Rex will have this D humming.
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Ingram is not anywhere near the class of McCoy If McCoy at 26 is over the hill after 6 years in the league what is Gore? Ajayi? A 3rd round prospect?! A guy who has just as much chance at success as washing out of the league? It is clear from your posts that you love Kiko. Think about the trade this way. The Bills traded a maybe star with 2 knee injuries in 4 years for a definite star that will touch the ball 20-30 times a game. I don't know about you but I'll trade a maybe for a definite every time. I do. i do love Kiko. i admit it now. It was the campbells commercials. everything in the NFL is a maybe. its all risk assessment Edited March 4, 2015 by 3rdand12
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Kiko Alonso- 24 Potential super star, NFL DPOY candidate as soon as this season. LeSean McCOy- 27, on the downside of his career, $12 million cap hit You know.....the more people like you talk the more I am for this trade
BuffaninATL Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Ugh, rb's are a dime a dozen in the draft. Kiko is a generational talent. with all due respect, based on what complete body of work? Dude played like he was shot out of a cannon for the first half (or less) of the 2013 season, then dropped off considerably. Doesn't equate to a generational talent in my book....
stevestojan Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 For those talking cap hit, do you REALY TRULY believe our front office didn't consider that? Honestly, with the ability to restructure, salary cap hits are almost moot.
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Realistically, probably not. LK is bigger, faster, stronger and more explosive.... And every bit as instinctive if not more. And healthy. One season in the NFL for him. but its a fair argument N S on your part. Luke was on my board and Alonso was not
H2o Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) C'mon we gotta stick together. Its our Bills. still after all these years we find a way : ) Love the Bills for 25+ now. I like Whaley. I haven't however liked EVERY move he's made. Hated the Chris Williams signing. Don't like this one either. Maybe the medical staff sees something we don't, but I can't see trading a young beast LB for a RB with a huge cap number with alot of tread on his tires Edited March 4, 2015 by H2o
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Those who hate the trade and feel like they want to stop supporting the Bills, here are two suggestions for you Send in a job application for Whaley's job since you, behind a computer, can do it better. IF you are really done, the Patriots need more bandwagon jumpers. Go support them! For the rest of you, let's see how it pans out. I see the merit in the trade as McCoy is a top flight RB in the prime of his career, he can play in cold weather and this team needs some damn star power. Now, resign Hughes and Spikes. . .try to get Revis for a two year deal (if possible) to lock down the secondary completely and draft a guard 2nd round that is ready to go this year! It might help if they filled that little hole at QB might
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Hopeful i think i should end my tantrum about now. Bills dont have a line to run behind yet. And the Draft offered some workhorses to fit in with Bryce Boobie and Fred. Thats not where i would have spent money. I might be making an offer to Clay before i even thought about this move. I think you should end your tantrum. There are teams with strong QB, QB who give DC's grey hairs, who can maintain a great running game with a workhorse back. Stafford. Rodgers. Brady. Then there are teams whose strategy is still "our star RB, and whoever hands the ball off to him". Seattle during Wilson's rookie year. Houston. And yeah, SF tended that way with Smith under center. FA isn't open yet. I think this says they don't have a great solution at QB in their sights, they intend to go all in for a strong line and a star RB that will maximize the potential of whoever they manage to scare out of the bushes (or EJ). And I think they may have liked McCown enough - maybe thought they could reproduce his year in Chicago - that they might have gone in a different direction. But he didn't sign here. So..... next plan My one fear is that McCoy and his agent get stupid about this. Time for a sales pitch. Whaley is a Pennsylvania boy, Rex is charming, Mario likes B'lo now. Book the table at Tempo. Edited March 4, 2015 by Hopeful
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 The board is holding up nicely to this bombshell, by the way. Very snappy! I cannot believe the entire website didn't shatter like the Death Star yet BZ SDS
prissythecat Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 That logic to justify this trade is laughable. Overrated means not as good as fans like you perceive him to be .
jahnyc Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 A couple of things. I hope the Bills made sure that McCoy would be good with the trade and that he would be willing to restructure before making the trade. If not, the incompetence of the front office continues.
CountryCletus Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Clearly this move was orchestrated by Bryce Brown.... How am I the only one that sees this!
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