Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 another great move - I mean a GREAT move honestly it makes total sense and I love it Me too. This is a good deal. Some on this board just don't have a finger on the pulse of this franchise. Great Move, a lot of hard work went into this. Nothing is final as of now. Kikos' knee is a concern, long term. This is the second major injury on the left knee. Shady in Romans offense, watch out!! Great Job Doug!!! Imo 100% As great of a RB as he was I highly doubt Chip is the only reason. Go watch the games from last year and explain to me the use of Shady. It's mindboggling.
kroupapga Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I am the minority here... But I absolutely LOVE the move. 1) All we do is question players who return from season ending injuries, but since our beloved "Kiko" had an amazing rookie season he is on an elite pedestal for a triumphant return? I don't buy it. In Rex I trust that he can fill that position for someone who can be effective. 2) When we run the rock well, we win games. The Spiller experiment is over. We just got a top 3 back in the league. I believe that HE will "run til he barfs". 3) We aren't done yet... I believe this is the first domino towards an EXTREMELY exciting season It's funny that most of the Philly boards hate it and most here at TBD hate it??? McCoy is a proven stud and I really like the idea of the legend of Kiko. I like it.
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 is anyone that is concerned about the mileage on McCoy equally concerned about the 2 knee surgeries on Kiko? Not really - acls are basically arthroscopic surgery these days.
Tipster19 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 And yet, without him, Bradham still went on and had a breakout year. Do you think he's not going to remember the work ethic part of the equation if Kiko isn't there? Come on, you're reaching. It's called chemistry. Of course Bradham is going to go on and play at his highest level but once again it was Kiko that inspired him. Is it wrong or terrible to want your life long favorite team to have great chemistry and enjoy being teammates and working as one??!
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I sense Rex had a role in this. Despite alleging that the system will be made to use the talent on hand, Kiko didn't fit Rex's idea of what he wanted as a lb in his system. A coverage lb apparently has no role......that what Kiko was....not a run plugger.....but a three down guy. I would be interested to go back and see how Kiko did against Rex in 13.......anyhow, seriously doubt that Whaley did this on his own. I Fredex also done it appears. This is all rex.
billsfan1973 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 This Some on this board just don't have a finger on the pulse of this franchise.Great Move, a lot of hard work went into this. Nothing is final as of now.Kikos' knee is a concern, long term. This is the second major injury on the left knee.Shady in Romans offense, watch out!!Great Job Doug!!!Imo
Ontario51 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Good running back, better than Spiller. Maybe Kiko's knee was an issue.
KRT88 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 OK, didn't see this coming. I thought it was a joke when I first saw it. Don't like the move
hondo in seattle Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I have to say i am shocked and a bit sad. Really liked Kiko. I would have liked it a lot more if Foles came with McCoy in the deal. But a lot of people said it. Top 3 defense and our coach knows defense so we have to assume they know what they are doing. Yeah, I'm a little sad, too. I liked both Kiko and CJ. I wondered what CJ could do in Greg Roman offense with - hopefully - an improved offensive line. (Of course I'm assuming the Bills will no longer attempt to resign CJ). And watching Kiko in a Rex Ryan defense would have been a blast. Yet, I can see why Whaley made the trade.
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Me likey. Me likey a lot. Same here Bro! Bye Bye Spiller!!!!!
purple haze Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 This is a fail. RB's are a dime a dozen and are only good for 5 yrs. McCoy has maybe 2 good years left in him. And he's definitely not a "ground and pound" back. This makes no sense. I'm in shock right now. We needed a QB. If you are going to trade our best young player then get a QB!!!
Bronc24 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 A lot of posters are confirming what their football IQ is in this thread.
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I hope I'm proven very wrong, but I think this trade is freaking horrible. It's got a Gregg Williams vibe to it - a great player not fitting a scheme gets bounced. McCoy has a lot of tread on the tires - he's up to 7000 yards after consecutive 300+ carry seasons. I'd love to hear more about why you're down on this trade. I respect your posts a lot, but this seems like a huge win once you get past the emotions of Kiko. Kiko didn't play a down last year and the defense was still terrific. Now we have Rex, who with this trade says he doesn't need Kiko to keep the defense working, but we have a giant hole in our offense at RB which we now fill with the top RB in the game (top 3 at worst). The cap number seems scary with Shady, but he's 27 and has three years left. Kiko is going to be up for a new deal soon and the Bills weren't going to be able to afford him, Dareus, Hughes, Gilmore et al... someone had to go. It's called chemistry. Of course Bradham is going to go on and play at his highest level but once again it was Kiko that inspired him. Is it wrong or terrible to want your life long favorite team to have great chemistry and enjoy being teammates and working as one??! Chemistry in professional sports is one of the most overrated elements there is. You're stretching with this. Bradham's play will not suffer because Kiko isn't there to cheerlead him. I promise.
Gugny Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Me likey. Me likey a lot. Wow. We agree on something!
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Same here Bro! Bye Bye Spiller!!!!! Even though I like Spiller more than you, it's good to hear from you Bill!
BLizzyMeock Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Everyone is pissed because Kiko was a fan favorite but after calming down u. Understand the thinking. Shady has had the most rush yrs of any player over the past 6 seasons and Kiko is comin off his second major acl injury and like everyone here already stated Kiko faded in the.second half of the season and was a liability against the run at times.
jumbalaya Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 You can easily pick up quality RBs in the draft or have waited until the Eagles had cut McCoy which they were going to do. He was not going to take a cut in pay and was on his way out. This trade is stupid. Kiko is one of the best players on the team and will be pro bowl caliber for 5 to 8 years. McCoy has one to two years left at a high level. Not a good trade at all.
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