Tipster19 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I want to punch Whaley in the face! You're being too nice!
nemhoff Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 You get arguably the top RB in the game (top 3 at worst), in his prime, locked in for three years. He fits Roman's scheme, can do everything (block, catch, run). In exchange you give up a very popular player, but a guy who's shredded the same knee twice and who didn't want to be here. It's a win. Fully agree with this, particularly if the revelation about Kiko not wanting to be here is true.
LB3 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Awkward. Spiller is on NFL Network live right now. He just found out when he saw the report right before he went on. Looks shell shocked. Says he was really hoping to stay in Buffalo.
offyourocker Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I have to say i am shocked and a bit sad. Really liked Kiko. I would have liked it a lot more if Foles came with McCoy in the deal. But a lot of people said it. Top 3 defense and our coach knows defense so we have to assume they know what they are doing.
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Only concern is he's had 350+ touches the last two years. Guys normally get that in the late 20s and its part of the wall. We are betting McCoy is pretty indestructible and kiko isn't going to hold up. Not a crazy bet, but could easily blow up too. Yep, it's a risk but I like it.
Bronc24 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Hmmm...David Harris and LeSean McCoy for Kiko Alonso. Anyone against that turn of events?
Max997 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Because they're trading a potential Pro Bowl LB for a RB (already a Pro Bowl player) who has already played 6 seasons. He's on borrowed time. Borrowed time? You have got to be kidding me Some of the comments in this thread are insanely ridiculous
rayray808 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I am the minority here... But I absolutely LOVE the move. 1) All we do is question players who return from season ending injuries, but since our beloved "Kiko" had an amazing rookie season he is on an elite pedestal for a triumphant return? I don't buy it. In Rex I trust that he can fill that position for someone who can be effective. 2) When we run the rock well, we win games. The Spiller experiment is over. We just got a top 3 back in the league. I believe that HE will "run til he barfs". 3) We aren't done yet... I believe this is the first domino towards an EXTREMELY exciting season
Fadingpain Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Regarding McCoy's age and mileage: This furthers the trend we have seen lately from OBD. They are building/planning/scheming to win NOW. Which is not a bad strategy.
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 @SportsCenter: Over last 2 seasons, no RB has more carries than LeSean McCoy, who has 626 rushes. DeMarco Murray is 2nd with 609. http://t.co/YWVyTvVRmi yes he was the #1 overall pick in my fantasy draft He was the number 1 pick in a lot of fantasy drafts. And everyone who picked him cursed Chip Kelly's name.
Captain Hindsight Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Surprising trade, for sure. But I don't get the anger. We had a great D last year without Kiko but an abysmal O. We're not likely to pass the ball very effectively this year so it's imperative we build up the ability to run the ball. Fred's getting old and CJ is a free agent with an indifferent record. While I'll miss Kiko, this trade makes loads of sense - at least for Buffalo. I don't get the "backs are a dime a dozen" argument. Backs are like any other position - there are good ones and bad ones and ones in-between. The good ones will help you win. Lynch, for example, was a big part of Seattle's success these past two years. Most other backs would not have propelled their offense the same way. McCoy is an elite back and he'll add more to our WIN column than Kiko would. Totally agree. Love Kiko because he's a fun dude to watch, but the Bills made a bold move to improve the offense. Great trade
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 @KMart_LI: .@CJSPILLER, on NFLN, said #Bills management called him a lil while ago to say they were going in a different direction
klos63 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 The team that wins the trade is the team that got the better player. McCoy by a mile. We trade for a premier player and gave up someone that didn't even play last year. Our defense was tremendous after he got hurt and replaced. McCoy is a difference maker. Great trade.
CardinalScotts Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Yep Whaley is a !@#$ing moron. It's official. another great move - I mean a GREAT move honestly it makes total sense and I love it Edited March 4, 2015 by CardinalScotts
Sojourner Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I am the minority here... But I absolutely LOVE the move. 1) All we do is question players who return from season ending injuries, but since our beloved "Kiko" had an amazing rookie season he is on an elite pedestal for a triumphant return? I don't buy it. In Rex I trust that he can fill that position for someone who can be effective. 2) When we run the rock well, we win games. The Spiller experiment is over. We just got a top 3 back in the league. I believe that HE will "run til he barfs". 3) We aren't done yet... I believe this is the first domino towards an EXTREMELY exciting season I don't think you're in the minority. I think it's more a case of it having blindsided people.
Braedenstearns Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Per NFL.com Okay! Then 3 show up after I post. Sorry guys
Tipster19 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 This isn't entirely true. Bradham played his best football last season when Kiko was on the IR. That's completely true. Bradham said that right after Kiko got hurt. Alonso inspired Bradham by his mentality/work ethic etc. that's what got Bradham focused and dedicated in the preceding off season.
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Only concern is he's had 350+ touches the last two years. Guys normally get that in the late 20s and its part of the wall. We are betting McCoy is pretty indestructible and kiko isn't going to hold up. Not a crazy bet, but could easily blow up too. 100%, and something to consider. He's got a lot of miles on the tread, but the more I think about the deal, the more I like it. If you're going to roll the dice on a guy, might as well be Shady. Fully agree with this, particularly if the revelation about Kiko not wanting to be here is true. Yes, I should stress that's speculation now of course, it might turn out not to be true. But if it is, it makes the trade even more of a win for both clubs.
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 another great move This is all Rex. Don't blame Whaley for this one. Kiko wanted out @JasonLaCanfora: Can confirm ESPN report Eagles have traded Shady McCoy for Kiko Alonso. One for one trade I'm told. Alonso had wanted out of Buffalo. Wow All Rex, as I said.
truth on hold Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Only concern is he's had 350+ touches the last two years. Guys normally get that in the late 20s and its part of the wall. We are betting McCoy is pretty indestructible and kiko isn't going to hold up. Not a crazy bet, but could easily blow up too. McCoy missed his sr year with a compound ankle fracture, hes got his own nasty injury history. and his production and role with eagles was sliding fast "Chip Kelly was reluctant to devote $11.95 million in cap space to McCoy after watching the 26-year-old's production drop from 5.1 yards per carry and 10.4 yards per reception to 4.2 and 5.5, respectively. After being phased out the passing game in favor of Darren Sproles early in the season, McCoy forfeited short-yardage work to Chris Polk down the stretch. In other words, McCoy was too often on the sidelines in critical situations" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000476192/article/eagles-bills-to-swap-lesean-mccoy-for-kiko-alonso Edited March 4, 2015 by JTSP
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