NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 From Sal M's Twitter: "Well, this would qualify as one hell of an interesting trade for the #Bills. McCoy is great, and Kiko was a bit overrated I thought" "After Kiko's first 5-6 games his rookie season, he really wasn't all that much of a difference maker. And #Bills didn't miss him last year" Seems to have the same opinion as a few fans here. I haven't processed yet - I loved me some Kiko, but Shady is a beast... Rb just seems so easy to find and McCoy has so many miles on him..... So that worries me. But if you think you are selling kiko way above his true value it's not unreasonable
The Big Cat Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Can anyone confirm if this has/will actually happened or is it still speculation? http://twitter.com/salmaiorana/status/572909964609654784
Max997 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Can anyone confirm if this has/will actually happened or is it still speculation? It's supposedly a done deal but can't be made official until next week
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I am a passionate fan and I am opinionated. I love the Bills and I am not afraid to say when I think they are making mistakes. If you want to try to put that is the context that I "running around like a baby" then go ahead. That is about all you are good for anyways. If you disagree with my opinion that is fine I really don't care. What you do though is wait for me and maybe other people to say something negative about the Bills. Then you attack me and maybe other posters and not the content of my post. That is what is truly childish. You're pretty much a dick You haven't offered an opinion other than sheer terror and panic reminiscent of a seventh grade girl who just got stood up at the dance. If you had more than anger to back up your position on why this is a bad deal (you haven't said anything yet of substance regarding why you feel this way) then I wouldn't be bringing it up. Instead, I've offered multiple reasons why this is a good deal for the Bills and all you respond with is that I'm a troll. I'm not a troll. But you need to grow a nut sack if you want to be taken seriously on this board when it comes to football discussion. Goodness.
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 @SportsCenter: Good news, Buffalo: LeSean McCoy dominates in snow. He set Eagles record w/ 217 Rush yds in 2013 blizzard vs Lions. http://t.co/8c9M0oGmJq Super Bowl !!! Wood, Glenn, Henderson, Incognito &.... someone step up @ RG... and I think we'll have a big bruising physical (huge) line. A minority of one but Alonso was my favorite player but this trade makes the OL better. We just better have 6-8 competent LB's next year ! Free Agency better be profitable
hondo in seattle Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Surprising trade, for sure. But I don't get the anger. We had a great D last year without Kiko but an abysmal O. We're not likely to pass the ball very effectively this year so it's imperative we build up the ability to run the ball. Fred's getting old and CJ is a free agent with an indifferent record. While I'll miss Kiko, this trade makes loads of sense - at least for Buffalo. I don't get the "backs are a dime a dozen" argument. Backs are like any other position - there are good ones and bad ones and ones in-between. The good ones will help you win. Lynch, for example, was a big part of Seattle's success these past two years. Most other backs would not have propelled their offense the same way. McCoy is an elite back and he'll add more to our WIN column than Kiko would.
Max997 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Rb just seems so easy to find and McCoy has so many miles on him..... So that worries me. But if you think you are selling kiko way above his true value it's not unreasonable McCoy turns 27 in July
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 We don't know his cap numbers for sure. I'm seeing different numbers than the 12 mill people are freaking out about. Let's get all the information before we tar and feather the trade. You have all the right in the world. And we have all the right in the world to laugh at you for doing so -- before all the relevant information is even in. It's all good. Signing bonus amortization stays in philly so probably around 10m
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I really hope we can resign Hughes now.... I don't think they make this move unless Rex signed off on it (knowing he doesn't need Kiko) and knowing that they are bringing Hughes back. That said, if Hughes bolts, we'll reassess.
BarleyNY Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Of the two of us, I'm the only one providing substance. You're running around like a baby who **** himself. Shady is in his prime, has three years left on his deal, and Alonzo is coming off two bad knee injuries -- and without him last year the defense was still historically great. Yeah. Real troll. You bring nothing to this forum with your Pollyanna BS.
Bronc24 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Good to see all the capologists have stuff figures out here.
klos63 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Why??????? This doesn't make sense. RBs are a dime a dozen Buffalo has depth at RB His cap hit is high.... This would make more sense if the goal was getting an OL player who could help. how do you know they don't plan on getting on OL player to help. My guess is that's the obvious next step
cosmo Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I'm really going to miss Kiko but having a backfield of Shady, Freddy and Boobie is very exciting.
klos63 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 If their contracts were the same then it could have been a pretty good deal but you're taking an 11million dollar cap hit in this deal so it's not Kiko for McCoy it's Kiko and a top flight FA for McCoy. if the Bills aren't concerned about the cap hit, why should you or any other fan be.
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Wow. Too stunned to make sense of this right now.
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 McCoy turns 27 in July And if healthy will be hitting 2000 touches this year though
Sojourner Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 http://twitter.com/salmaiorana/status/572909964609654784 Thanks buddy. Damn. Hate to see Kiko go. Would be interesting to see him under Rex's tutelage.
truth on hold Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) if we're going to trade Kiko how about a real position of need like Guard or TE? Lesean is a top RB for sure, but RBs are being devalued and he comes at a high price of Kiko + cap hit Edited March 4, 2015 by JTSP
maddenboy Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 RBs r a dime a dozen, why? Maybe it was Polian who once said (paraphrasing) "If you are going to draft a RB high [or trade, i guess], he'd better be special, and a 3-down player." After I hid the sharp objects from myself the past 15 mins, I'm starting to see it though. My heart is breaking, yes. But which player would help us more to WIN THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR? Because if that is not the singular goal, then just quit. To hell with "getting better." I think, on balance, its right. But my heart is breaking.
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