Hillary violated law as SOS

[Doc]

Or maybe Barry approved it?

[Chef Jim]

Or maybe Barry approved it?

 

Because he knew it would come back and bit her in the butt?

[Doc]

Because he knew it would come back and bit her in the butt?

Possibly and/or because he's as corrupt as her.

[IDBillzFan]

So the law Hillary broke was

H.R.1233 Sec 10

 

(Sec. 10) Prohibits an officer or employee of an executive agency from creating or sending a record using a non-official electronic messaging account unless such officer or employee: (1) copies an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee in the original creation or transmission of the record, or (2) forwards a complete copy of the record to an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee not later than 20 days after the original creation or transmission of the record. Provides for disciplinary action against an agency officer or employee for an intentional violation of such prohibition.

 

the law took effect

Public Law (11/26/2014) https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1233

 

Hillary was SOS January 21, 2009 – February 1, 2013

 

Why am I not surprised you're okay with this?

[....lybob]

 

Why am I not surprised you're okay with this?

Ok with what ?

[B-Man]

From Slate...............who also acknowledge the 2014 ruling, BUT does not think that is a credible defense for Hillary

 

FTA:

 

Clinton’s camp, as you might expect, maintains its boss did nothing wrong. “Both the letter and spirit of the rules permitted State Department officials to use non-government email, as long as appropriate records were preserved," Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill told the Associated Press.

While Merrill appears to be correct on the first count, the case for the second—the spirit of the law—is less than convincing. At best, Clinton failed to go the extra mile to make sure her emails were part of the official record; at worst, she intentionally sought out a legal gray area from which to do her business.

 

The spirit of the federal archiving of government records is pretty clearly focused on providing an accurate and comprehensive account of administrative decision-making—for the government itself, as well as the American public. Or, as Obama himself put it in a memo to his administration in 2011 (when Clinton was still secretary) that asked his staff to redouble their record-keeping efforts: “Improving records management will improve performance and promote openness and accountability by better documenting agency actions and decisions.”

 

Even Robert Gibbs, who served as White House spokesman during Clinton’s first two years in the State Department, has suggested that Clinton should have known she wasn’t following standard protocol when she decided to do all her emailing from a private account without taking specific steps to turn over those emails for government record collection. “There are lots of briefings that you have, certainly when you go into the White House, about preserving any email that you have, making sure it’s part of your official account,” Gibbs said on the Today show Tuesday, calling Clinton’s actions “highly unusual.”

 

Clinton’s team maintains that any email she sent or received to anyone else in the government would have been preserved on their end—an argument that relies on her colleagues using the same type of .gov address that she herself avoided. That defense also conveniently ignores any government business she may have conducted with foreign leaders or private parties outside the U.S. government.

 

Clinton’s team says she turned over 55,000 pages of emails from her personal account to the State Department late last year at its request, but that too doesn’t make things right, as Politico rightly notes. “The fact that Clinton’s emails were not a part of official State Department records until recently means many of them would not have been located in response to Freedom of Information Act requests, subpoenas or other document searches conducted over the past six years,” explains Josh Gerstein.

 

And, perhaps as troubling as anything else is that it appears that Clinton made a conscious decision to use private email instead of a government account that would be more easily recorded.

 

As the Washington Post’s Philip Bump discovered, the domain for the email account that Clinton is believed to have used in the State Department was created the same day as her first confirmation hearing.

 

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/03/03/hillary_clinton_s_private_email_account_did_she_break_the_law_as_secretary.html

[DC Tom]

So the law Hillary broke was

 

H.R.1233 Sec 10

 

(Sec. 10) Prohibits an officer or employee of an executive agency from creating or sending a record using a non-official electronic messaging account unless such officer or employee: (1) copies an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee in the original creation or transmission of the record, or (2) forwards a complete copy of the record to an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee not later than 20 days after the original creation or transmission of the record. Provides for disciplinary action against an agency officer or employee for an intentional violation of such prohibition.

 

the law took effect

 

Public Law (11/26/2014) https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1233

 

Hillary was SOS January 21, 2009 – February 1, 2013

It's been an executive order since 1981, which Obama renewed and strengthened in 2009. And Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzales lost their jobs in 2007 for exactly what Hillary did.

 

Your ignorance is boundless.

“The fact that Clinton’s emails were not a part of official State Department records until recently means many of them would not have been located in response to Freedom of Information Act requests, subpoenas or other document searches conducted over the past six years,”

Or Congressional subpoenas.

 

That's the big one. I have to take training on records retention annually, in which they always stress records retention in case of Congressional investigations. You can be fired for using a non-government email for work purposes. Ask David Petraeus.

 

This is on par with the Nixon tapes, in terms of severity. In fact, that's why the executive order exists.

[GG]

It's been an executive order since 1981, which Obama renewed and strengthened in 2009. And Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzales lost their jobs in 2007 for exactly what Hillary did.

Your ignorance is boundless.

 

Or Congressional subpoenas.

That's the big one. I have to take training on records retention annually, in which they always stress records retention in case of Congressional investigations. You can be fired for using a non-government email for work purposes. Ask David Petraeus.

This is on par with the Nixon tapes, in terms of severity. In fact, that's why the executive order exists.

This is the thread that sprung you from exile?

[B-Man]

Update: Well now.

 

Hillary Clinton is defending her use of a private email address, hosted at ClintonEmail.com, to conduct official State Department business by claiming that her emails were captured by official @state.gov accounts that other agency employees were instructed to use to contact her.

But according to a knowledgeable source, at least two other top Clinton aides also used private email accounts to conduct government business—placing their official communications outside the scope of federal record-keeping regulations.

 

“Her top staffers used those Clinton email addresses” at the agency, said the source, who has worked with Clinton in the past. The source named two staffers in particular,

Philippe Reines and Huma Abedin, who are said to have used private email addresses in the course of their agency duties

. Reines served as deputy assistant secretary of state, and Abedin as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff. Both rank among Clinton’s most loyal confidantes, in and out of the State Department.

 

 

It doesn’t matter if Hillary was using an official State Department account, say her defenders, so long as the people she was e-mailing at State were using official accounts. After all, her messages will show up in the records of their accounts.

 

What if they also weren’t using official accounts either?

 

 

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[Magox]

 

That's a stretch, isn't it? Just because only official accounts are retained doesn't mean they cannot access, or obtain, her private email accounts or their history. Certainly there are electronic records of her correspondence, and with our society's absolute lack of privacy, it should be rather simple for Big Brother to get their hands on her emails, private or not.

They could, but they wouldn't dare do that to the Clinton's.

[Jauronimo]

Thats also just an information security nightmare. I would be in deep **** if I started using my gmail acct rather than the office mail server.

[Magox]

It's not even a discussion topic, but grounds for immediate termination.

 

No one had asked yet why wasn't this flagged by the sys admins and the staff during her reign? I can't imagine none of the staffers weren't cc'd on the personal emails. If they were, it wasn't just Hillary who broke the law.

 

I'm so sick of these people living under different rules.

They don't dare tell the Clinton's what to do.

[Taro T]

Update: Well now.

 

 

Hillary Clinton is defending her use of a private email address, hosted at ClintonEmail.com, to conduct official State Department business by claiming that her emails were captured by official @state.gov accounts that other agency employees were instructed to use to contact her. But according to a knowledgeable source, at least two other top Clinton aides also used private email accounts to conduct government business—placing their official communications outside the scope of federal record-keeping regulations.

 

“Her top staffers used those Clinton email addresses” at the agency, said the source, who has worked with Clinton in the past. The source named two staffers in particular, Philippe Reines and Huma Abedin, who are said to have used private email addresses in the course of their agency duties. Reines served as deputy assistant secretary of state, and Abedin as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff. Both rank among Clinton’s most loyal confidantes, in and out of the State Department.

 

 

 

It doesn’t matter if Hillary was using an official State Department account, say her defenders, so long as the people she was e-mailing at State were using official accounts. After all, her messages will show up in the records of their accounts.

 

What if they also weren’t using official accounts either?

 

 

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What about e-mails to those outside the US govt? Would expect that the content of that might be of interest in a hearing or 2.

[B-Man]

Hm: Hillary was warned over private e-mail use, security?

 

Several have wondered, surely there was someone in the Clinton orbit who said, “Hey, maybe it’s not the greatest idea ever for you to ignore federal records acts, never get a government e-mail, and so obviously hide everything you do during your tenure at the State Department.” Well, there wasn’t anyone close enough to her to care to get the message through, apparently, but there was someone. Lowly IT guy, take a bow:

 

State Department technology experts expressed security concerns that then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was using a private email service rather than the government’s fortified and monitored system, but those fears fell on deaf ears, a current employee on the department’s cybersecurity team told Al Jazeera America on Tuesday.

 

The employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing his job, said it was well known that Clinton’s emails were at greater risk of being hacked, intercepted or monitored, but the warnings were ignored.

 

“We tried,” the employee said. “We told people in her office that it wasn’t a good idea. They were so uninterested that I doubt the secretary was ever informed.”

 

 

The Clinton e-mail address at issue had in fact already been revealed by a previous hacking:

 

 

 

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[GG]

Nothing to see here move along.

[Keukasmallies]

Nothing [will be allowed] to see [the light of day] here move along.

 

 

Slight clarification....

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You can be fired for using a non-government email for work purposes. Ask David Petraeus.

 

Also grounds to revoke a security clearance. And if any sensitive material was transferred it could be grounds for criminal prosecution.

 

For the peons anyway. This will just be waved off as another salvo on right wing misogonis, mizojohn, misogyn, War on Women©

[Chef Jim]

Hm: Hillary was warned over private e-mail use, security?

 

Several have wondered, surely there was someone in the Clinton orbit who said, “Hey, maybe it’s not the greatest idea ever for you to ignore federal records acts, never get a government e-mail, and so obviously hide everything you do during your tenure at the State Department.” Well, there wasn’t anyone close enough to her to care to get the message through, apparently, but there was someone. Lowly IT guy, take a bow:

 

State Department technology experts expressed security concerns that then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was using a private email service rather than the government’s fortified and monitored system, but those fears fell on deaf ears, a current employee on the department’s cybersecurity team told Al Jazeera America on Tuesday.

 

The employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing his job, said it was well known that Clinton’s emails were at greater risk of being hacked, intercepted or monitored, but the warnings were ignored.

 

“We tried,” the employee said. “We told people in her office that it wasn’t a good idea. They were so uninterested that I doubt the secretary was ever informed.”

 

 

The Clinton e-mail address at issue had in fact already been revealed by a previous hacking:

 

 

 

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Funny I just got this email from my Broker/Dealer checking the validity of my email account.

 

THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS FROM ___________________, PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:

You have previously received approval from ________________ to use this outside email account for securities related communications. To meet regulatory standards, we will periodically send you this automated email message to assist us in validating that the proper email configuration settings remain in place. At this time, you do not need to respond to this message.

[Doc]

The more time goes by, the more unsavory things that are coming out about Hilly. And we still have another year and a half until the election. Looks like putting all the eggs into the Hilly basket isn't going to work out so well.

[Keukasmallies]

The more time goes by, the more unsavory things that are coming out about Hilly. And we still have another year and a half until the election. Looks like putting all the eggs into the Hilly basket isn't going to work out so well.

 

Never fear, the Clinton arrogance will prevail. Hill'ry will launch one of her patented Listening Tours during which she'll feel the pain of the downtrodden, revel in the joy of young families supporting her message, and blatantly ignore the fact-based criticisms that wash up on her shores. After all, the Clintons have a foundation [read money laundering scheme], yet she forges ahead with no moral or ethical foundation at all.