Fixxxer Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Do you feel the new CBA works for the players? The last couple of days there has been a lot of veteran guys (mid tier talent or just old talent) get cut by their teams. Wasn't the new CBA an instrument for veteran players to get more money off NFL pot? I remember back when DeMaurice Smith was talking about how this new agreement would help the guys with long careers. The list of guys cut this week is long and I think you can divide them in two groups: Average guys: Hartline, Fasano, Bush, Brandon Gibson, Charlie Johnson (OG), Greg Little, Harry Douglas, Old guys: Barry Coefield, Chris Canty, Darnell Dockett, Justin Blalock, Robert Gaethers, I get the feeling the first group of players will get paid more in next FA than the guys on the second list, even though the guys on the second list are more accomplished players. Do you feel the players are happy with this new CBA?
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Structurally there is more money available, less of it ear marked for rookies, and lowered abilities for ownership to sit on the funds instead of paying someone. Sure older guys will get cut and careers will end but on a broad level guys getting past their rookie contracts should have more resources available for them to earn. Without really in depth analysis it's hard to say if those extra funds are going info mid tier young guys, the ELITE, or older guys. There are programs in place though that reduce cap hits for those 10 year guys with higher minimum pay to help get costs to a ten down and discourage replacing them with late round rookies
Fixxxer Posted February 28, 2015 Author Posted February 28, 2015 Structurally there is more money available, less of it ear marked for rookies, and lowered abilities for ownership to sit on the funds instead of paying someone. Sure older guys will get cut and careers will end but on a broad level guys getting past their rookie contracts should have more resources available for them to earn. Without really in depth analysis it's hard to say if those extra funds are going info mid tier young guys, the ELITE, or older guys. There are programs in place though that reduce cap hits for those 10 year guys with higher minimum pay to help get costs to a ten down and discourage replacing them with late round rookies I know Dockett failed a physical but him being 10 year veteran, why did Arizona cut him if those programs are in place?
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) I know Dockett failed a physical but him being 10 year veteran, why did Arizona cut him if those programs are in place? He's far from a vet minimum player. Making 8.5m no one has to subsidize his cap hit to get a spot in the league. If he were a guy on the edge with the vet minimum pay working against him when compared to a rookie with a much lower minimum he would have some nfl assistance on his side with the cap hit Edited February 28, 2015 by NoSaint
Boatdrinks Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Bottom line is still the bottom line. When the cap number gets too big for the production, age, or availability( due to injury etc) the player will be a prime candidate for release. The CBA cuts both ways. Less $ for rookies and unproven players, more $ for vets that have proven their worth. This can also make the younger less expensive player more attractive as that vets salary takes up too much of the cap. The production has to justify the salary when the disparity in cap $ is greater. So a guy like Dwan Edwards is pointed out on NFL live as a vet outperforming his contract and a prime candidate to be resigned. A more accomplished player such as Dockett gets released. The CBA really makes teams focus on value for $ even more.
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