Maddog69 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I tried not to be vague with, "Do you believe that EJ will be a franchise QB?" You either believe that he will become one or your don't. How do you define "franchise QB"? I reserve that for the great of the game and I don't think EJ will be one of those. But I do believe he can be a successful NFL starting QB and help lead his team to playoff victories. I think he can be on par with the second tier of QBs behind Manning, Brady, Brees, etc.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 How do you define "franchise QB"? I reserve that for the great of the game and I don't think EJ will be one of those. But I do believe he can be a successful NFL starting QB and help lead his team to playoff victories. I think he can be on par with the second tier of QBs behind Manning, Brady, Brees, etc. again the purpose here is to prove the EJ haters to be in the majority over the EJ supporters. Because this is a biased poll I too have deleted my vote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 27, 2015 Author Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) How do you define "franchise QB"? I reserve that for the great of the game and I don't think EJ will be one of those. But I do believe he can be a successful NFL starting QB and help lead his team to playoff victories. I think he can be on par with the second tier of QBs behind Manning, Brady, Brees, etc. Tannehill is the floor. again the purpose here is to prove the EJ haters to be in the majority over the EJ supporters. Because this is a biased poll I too have deleted my vote It's okay to be wrong we all are. I'm not sure what the bias is? You either believe that he will become a franchise QB (as you do) or you don't (as I do). The majority believe that he won't but it's not everyone (it's not 7 people either). It's not hating at all. Edited February 27, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
metzelaars_lives Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 see above. this is meant to be a poll to prove "their" point and that the majority does not like EJ very PPPish Oh my God, I couldn't even imagine debating politics with you. I cannot believe that 39% of you in your heart of hearts believe that EJ Manuel is going to be a franchise QB in the NFL. I'd imagine if the poll asked the same question about, say Geno Smith for example, those same results would be closer to 0%. It's like EJ is your kid and he's always getting in trouble in school but it's always the other kids' fault. I'd imagine if the question was, "if $1 million was at stake and you had to predict whether or not EJ Manuel was starting for an NFL team three years from now on opening weekend" or "if your life was at stake and you would get turned over to ISIS if you were wrong..." then that percentage would likewise be much lower.
Rob's House Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I didn't vote because my vote would be no and I don't like to pile on in case his friends/family peruse fanboards to gauge perceptions.
metzelaars_lives Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 again the purpose here is to prove the EJ haters to be in the majority over the EJ supporters. Because this is a biased poll I too have deleted my vote Why is it always some sort of conspiracy. Bills fan 4 ever, I am asking you right here, right now, point blank: Do you think that three years from now, EJ Manuel is going to be starting for an NFL team on opening weekend? Yes or no. My vote would be no. And that does not mean that I think Josh McCown is "awesome" either. And to support the OP, I am not saying it's impossible, but if I had to guess yes or no, my guess would be no. your turn.
Maddog69 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Tannehill is the floor. It's okay to be wrong we all are. I'm not sure what the bias is? You either believe that he will become a franchise QB (as you do) or you don't (as I do). The majority believe that he won't but it's not everyone (it's not 7 people either). It's not hating at all. If Tannehill is your floor for a "Franchise" QB, then Hell yes, EJ can be one.
Bill from NYC Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Franchise QB? I'm not so sure. Hey.....will TJ Graham become a franchise receiver?
metzelaars_lives Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 If Tannehill is your floor for a "Franchise" QB, then Hell yes, EJ can be one. But will he? Look at Tannehill's numbers. They might surprise you. I would be shocked if Manuel ever put up the kind of numbers Tannehill has the last few seasons.
The Wiz Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 If Tannehill is your floor for a "Franchise" QB, then Hell yes, EJ can be one. Should definitely be added to the poll that Tannehill is the floor for franchise QB. Might not change the "no" minds but I think the yes's would be more willing to vote than abstain.
San-O Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I'm not undecided because I can't make a decision, the jury is just still out. He has the potential, possibly. C'mon dude!
Maddog69 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Tannehill is the perfect comparison. Miami stuck with him and he progressed. The Bills have yanked EJ around. EJ's career stats so far match nicely with Tannehill's rookie year.
metzelaars_lives Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Tannehill is the perfect comparison. Miami stuck with him and he progressed. The Bills have yanked EJ around. EJ's career stats so far match nicely with Tannehill's rookie year. That's a fair response.
1billsfan Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Oh my God, I couldn't even imagine debating politics with you. I cannot believe that 39% of you in your heart of hearts believe that EJ Manuel is going to be a franchise QB in the NFL. I'd imagine if the poll asked the same question about, say Geno Smith for example, those same results would be closer to 0%. It's like EJ is your kid and he's always getting in trouble in school but it's always the other kids' fault. I'd imagine if the question was, "if $1 million was at stake and you had to predict whether or not EJ Manuel was starting for an NFL team three years from now on opening weekend" or "if your life was at stake and you would get turned over to ISIS if you were wrong..." then that percentage would likewise be much lower. We are still believers of EJ Manuel. Being a believer when everyone is giving up is the essence of being a Buffalo Bills fan. In my eyes, EJ has done enough to still have the faith in him. Funny you mention ISIS. Because it sounds like the haters are trying their best to eliminate the EJ believers. Please tell me who the better option at QB is, because I don't see it. Seriously, tell me who this QB is.
QCity Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 because I don't see it. If you're blinded by faith there's a lot you won't see.
metzelaars_lives Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 We are still believers of EJ Manuel. Being a believer when everyone is giving up is the essence of being a Buffalo Bills fan. In my eyes, EJ has done enough to still have the faith in him. Funny you mention ISIS. Because it sounds like the haters are trying their best to eliminate the EJ believers. Please tell me who the better option at QB is, because I don't see it. Seriously, tell me who this QB is. I honestly believe that the Bills will make a play for a Foles, Cousins or maybe even Bradford and it will not be Manuel or one of the garbage free agents. Or they are in love with one of the second tier QB's in the draft and they will take them at 50 and have them battle it out with McCown. I believe this because I truly think Pegula is looking to make a splash and that they have a grander plan.
Maddog69 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I honestly believe that the Bills will make a play for a Foles, Cousins or maybe even Bradford and it will not be Manuel or one of the garbage free agents. Or they are in love with one of the second tier QB's in the draft and they will take them at 50 and have them battle it out with McCown. I believe this because I truly think Pegula is looking to make a splash and that they have a grander plan. To me, the reported interest in McCown and Matt Moore tells me they like EJ and will give him a solid look this year before addressing the QB position next year if need be.
LB3 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I honestly believe that the Bills will make a play for a Foles, Cousins or maybe even Bradford and it will not be Manuel or one of the garbage free agents. Or they are in love with one of the second tier QB's in the draft and they will take them at 50 and have them battle it out with McCown. I believe this because I truly think Pegula is looking to make a splash and that they have a grander plan. I'd be depressed if they brought in Cousins. I've never actually seen a QB's eyes in the exact moment where everything started to fall apart, like I did watching Cousins against the Giants last year. He was slinging the ball one moment, and then bam, zero confidence. It terrified me because before that I thought he had moxie.
thebandit27 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I voted no. I absolutely think that the raw material is there, I just don't know if he'll ever develop to that point. Add in the fact that the odds against ANY QB reaching "franchise" level are significant, and "no" seems like the only smart bet.
Rob's House Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 How do you define "franchise QB"? I reserve that for the great of the game and I don't think EJ will be one of those. But I do believe he can be a successful NFL starting QB and help lead his team to playoff victories. I think he can be on par with the second tier of QBs behind Manning, Brady, Brees, etc. I'd say it's an established QB who's good enough that you consider the position filled.
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