negativo Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I think this bombshell deserves its own thread. Leroi has proven to be a reliable inside source on this board, so it's worth taking seriously. We are desperate to find an alternative to EJ.We feel McCown is an upgrade to Orton.Roman and him are good friends. Look for this to be completed tomorrow AM, also look for EJ to be cut two days after FA opens.Imo http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/176133-josh-mccown-anybody-update-talking-contract-22615/?p=3470894 Edited February 27, 2015 by negativo
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 is there any advantage to the "two days after FA opens"? is that implying we will try and sign someone who is becoming a FA first, and if that works out day 1 then we will cut EJ?
dorquemada Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 To what end though? Why cut EJ? At worst, he's a solid backup, and his contract isn't anything to worry over from a salary cap perspective. I'm certainly not doubting Leroi (pbuh) but it doesn't make sense.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I like inside sources and they're fun. But why would you leak this and kill any potential trade value if you really are ready to move on from EJ? Straight dumb sauce.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) It makes zero financial sense so if he is right then he has good sources. Cutting EJ hurts our cap space. Edited February 27, 2015 by TheTruthHurts
FireChan Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I like inside sources and they're fun. But why would you leak this and kill any potential trade value if you really are ready to move on from EJ? Straight dumb sauce. If they're looking to cut him, why would they care about trade value? Clearly, he has none.
negativo Posted February 27, 2015 Author Posted February 27, 2015 If the intention to cut EJ is true it tells me two things: They are convinced he doesn't have what it takes to be a quality NFL QB. They don't want to taint the development of their next QB with an EJ drama.
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 To what end though? Why cut EJ? At worst, he's a solid backup, and his contract isn't anything to worry over from a salary cap perspective. I'm certainly not doubting Leroi (pbuh) but it doesn't make sense. i posted in the other thread the additional question about not learning our lesson cutting TJax early. what if mccown looks terrible or tears an ACL? even if we sign someone else, why cut ej even a day before final cut downs, unless you think a labor day street free agent would be a better week 1 option?
Chuck Wagon Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 My logical thought is: McCown is the only viable QB we can sign right now. He's got a working relationship with both Roman & Kromer There's a QB in FA they've evaluated to be better than EJ (Locker?, Bradford if released?). It's a lot easier to convince said FA target to come in if he's only battling with a career backup like McCown and a late round flier than if he's going to be in competition with the guy the GM took in the first round not even 2 years ago.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 If they're looking to cut him, why would they care about trade value? Clearly, he has none. Then, they are stupid. And what has Ryan shown about his ability to know good QB play? If the intention to cut EJ is true it tells me two things: They are convinced he doesn't have what it takes to be a quality NFL QB. They don't want to taint the development of their next QB with an EJ drama. EJ was probably like the best teammate in the world after that sackless scrub replaced him.
Captain Hindsight Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Makes little sense to me. No first rounder. No good options in FA So so options in the draft Pure numbers they need him.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 i posted in the other thread the additional question about not learning our lesson cutting TJax early. what if mccown looks terrible or tears an ACL? even if we sign someone else, why cut ej even a day before final cut downs, unless you think a labor day street free agent would be a better week 1 option? I just can't believe the Bills would be this stupid. I just can't.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 If the intention to cut EJ is true it tells me two things: They are convinced he doesn't have what it takes to be a quality NFL QB. They don't want to taint the development of their next QB with an EJ drama. Why do teams get so worried about this? Could you imagine any franchise QB worried about competition? Was Aaron Rodgers hurt when GB drafted Brian Brohm? Was Brees hurt when SD drafted Rivers?
34-78-83 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Don't see any logic to the idea. Nope - not gonna happen. (Would be more than shocked if it did).
dorquemada Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Then, they are stupid. And what has Ryan shown about his ability to know good QB play? EJ was probably like the best teammate in the world after that sackless scrub replaced him. Yup. EJ could not have been more professional about the whole thing, and by all accounts continued to work hard in practice and improve. This doesn't make sense. If we were in training camp and EJ was getting out played by McCown, Tuel, and QB#4 to be named, I'd get it, but there is nothing to gain by doing it now, and any 12th dimensional chess to try to explain it is stupid.
chris heff Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Isn't there an "Imo" at the end of Leroi's post?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Isn't there an "Imo" at the end of Leroi's post?He made a prediction.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Isn't there an "Imo" at the end of Leroi's post? IMO, there is.
Saint Doug Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I always thought that Leroi was a !@#$ who was making actual football decision (eg. Rex or even Whaley himself). I guess this proves that theory wrong. Cutting EJ makes extremely little sense (unless he's done something to really piss off the FO or we are bringing in a really big fish at QB).
truth on hold Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Don't think it's true and also op said it was his opinion this would happen. No mention of actual plans. Only financial rationale would be eating the entire cost in Rex's first year when most coaches realized they have a grace period, and free up some more space for the more important 2nd year
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