Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-veto-keystone-xl-oil-182144718.html;_ylt=A0LEVyriNO1UojoARCbBGOd_
Keukasmallies Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 I guess the up side is that after seven years he finally kept a promise.
B-Man Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Obama Vetoes Keystone, Ignoring His Own Administration’s Findings FTA: It’s hard to fathom how Congress could possibly “cut short” consideration and review of a project that has already been on hold for a staggering 2,349 days. During that time, the State Department conducted not one but five separate and comprehensive reviews, examining precisely the security, safety, and environmental concerns that Obama referenced this afternoon. In fact, the State Department found, construction of the pipeline may actually improve security and safety by reducing train traffic, which has boomed on pace with the growth of the energy sector. Railway accidents can turn hazardous fast, as illustrated in myriad incidents, from last week’s fiery West Virginia oil-tanker derailment to Canada’s Lac-Mégantic disaster, which left 47 dead in 2013. Approval of the pipeline could reduce rail traffic, preventing as many as 48 injuries and six fatalities annually, the State Department projected. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414350/obama-vetoes-keystone-ignoring-his-own-administrations-findings-jillian-kay-melchior?target=topic&tid=1977 Obama’s Keystone Pipeline Veto Purely Political. Why Is the International Environmental Movement Silent about the Nicaragua Canal? ..............Socialists get a pass ? .
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 His reasoning is that he hasn't had enough time to review the ramifications. How much time does he need? It's like when I make a recommendation to a client and they say they need to think about it when I know the true answer is no. Just have the balks and say no and tell us why. Leadership is hard.
KD in CA Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 His reasoning is that he hasn't had enough time to review the ramifications. How much time does he need? It's like when I make a recommendation to a client and they say they need to think about it when I know the true answer is no. Just have the balks and say no and tell us why. Leadership is hard. If he needed more time to review the ramifications, why did he veto it the day after it was passed? I need a laugh this morning; can one of the retards please repeat the "35 jobs" line?
keepthefaith Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Oil is bad. It's dirty and the money it generates lines the pockets of wall street fatcats and oil execs. Never mind that it's one of the largest manufacturing industries in the US, that it employs many middle class people and union members, and is an export commodity.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 His reasoning is that he hasn't had enough time to review the ramifications. How much time does he need? It's like when I make a recommendation to a client and they say they need to think about it when I know the true answer is no. Just have the balks and say no and tell us why. Leadership is hard. No, I think its a FU move, a bargaining chip. If GOP is going to keep stopping everything then he will do the same thing. If the GOP gives on immigration or something then he might be more flexible on the Capstone pipe
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) do they really need another one? and isn't the price of gas at $2.30 the lowest it's been in a decade or so? (yes I'm guessing so blast away if I am wrong ) It's amazing what one learns on the Daily Show Edited February 25, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
FireChan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 No, I think its a FU move, a bargaining chip. If GOP is going to keep stopping everything then he will do the same thing. If the GOP gives on immigration or something then he might be more flexible on the Capstone pipe Sounds like spite to me. "If you don't agree with me on a separate issue, I'll veto everything you want to do!" We have a 6 year old in the White House.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 Sounds like spite to me. "If you don't agree with me on a separate issue, I'll veto everything you want to do!" We have a 6 year old in the White House. Wow! You been under a rock the last six years?
Azalin Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 It's a show, with both sides working to specific ends. Congress sends him the bill with approval for the pipeline, the president takes a stand against big oil and fossil fuels to play to his base. Congress is playing to the center and the right by sending up the approval for Keystone for the president to sign. Both sides score points by their actions. If I had to predict, I think it's going to play a lot like when the 104th congress kept sending welfare reform to Clinton. Clinton vetoed it twice to placate the left, but he didn't dare veto it a third time, due to the popularity of reforming welfare among the general public. If the republicans keep sending Obama bills to sign with approval of the pipeline and he continues to veto them, he'll shift public opinion against him, and possibly the party as well, as being obstructionist.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Wow! You been under a rock the last six years? actually he's been in here drinking the Kool Aid and dreaming of naming his children after Kyle Orton Sounds like spite to me. "If you don't agree with me on a separate issue, I'll veto everything you want to do!" We have a 6 year old in the White House. What gatorman said how is that different that what the Republicans have done for the last 6 years? You do remember the top GOP people saying they wanted Obama to FAIL. Edited February 25, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
FireChan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Wow! You been under a rock the last six years? Five. And no, I know all about Republican obstructionism. Do you know that two wrongs don't make a right?
IDBillzFan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Frankly I'm just surprised Obama chose the greenie nutsuckers over the union nutsuckers. The unions have always had more money than the greenies. What I'm not surprised about is that he vetoed a bipartisan bill simply to raise money.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Five. And no, I know all about Republican obstructionism. Do you know that two wrongs don't make a right? it's not right. Again, after 6 plus years why complain now?
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 No, I think its a FU move, a bargaining chip. If GOP is going to keep stopping everything then he will do the same thing. If the GOP gives on immigration or something then he might be more flexible on the Capstone pipe And there you have it my friends. The immaturity of our government. And you idolize one side. Not surprised.
FireChan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 it's not right. Again, after 6 plus years why complain now? What? And please, tell me how I'm only complaining now. Better yet, tell me why I shouldn't complain now.
IDBillzFan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 What? And please, tell me how I'm only complaining now. Better yet, tell me why I shouldn't complain now. Because BUSHCHENEYRUMMYPALINOREILLYSHUTUP!!!!
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 Five. And no, I know all about Republican obstructionism. Do you know that two wrongs don't make a right? you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.... And there you have it my friends. The immaturity of our government. And you idolize one side. Not surprised. its easy to curse the darkness but makes more sense to go to the trouble of lighting a candle.
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