Dorkington Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I just hope we knock it out of the park with the next two drafts, because I assume we'll be losing one or two of our "young studs" next off season (not being pessimistic with that, just that's how the NFL goes).
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 This is actually a pretty accurate breakdown. There are a few avenues to lower the hit next year he didn't explore (i.e. signing Gilmore long term), but it does illustrate some of the issues we'll face in the near future. More importantly, it illustrates these issues are, in fact, real -- and they won't go away by pretending Pegula has some mythical accounting powers that the other 30 billionaire owners in the league don't possess. The most glaring problem to me is that while we will be fighting to stay under the cap in the upcoming years, these figures don't allocate any future spending for anything more than a stopgap QB. That is why we will probably be trying to draft our future qb
Big Turk Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Clay and Mario restructures are pretty much a given next year, which would free up quite a bit
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Right I def get the feeling that Clay will be open to doing a restructure next year.....we have not TOUCHED Mario's contract. We are fine. The bills have done a very good job with this.
Big Turk Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Right I def get the feeling that Clay will be open to doing a restructure next year.....we have not TOUCHED Mario's contract. We are fine. The bills have done a very good job with this. All they do is convert the roster bonus to a signing bonus, makes him no difference, he still gets the money upfront, we just get to spread it out over the other four years
Lurker Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 All they do is convert the roster bonus to a signing bonus, makes him no difference, he still gets the money upfront, we just get to spread it out over the other four years Bingo... That'll rub even more salt in the Fin's wound, as well...
dezertbill Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Bills cap as of 3/19 is at $9.5 mil not including Clay's hit. So I'm thinking we'll have roughly $2.5 after Clay hits the books. That's without restructuring Mario or cutting Williams, which I'm calculating could take Buffalo's cap back up to $10 mil if completed.
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I def get the feeling that Clay will be open to doing a restructure next year.....we have not TOUCHED Mario's contract. i assume the 10m bonus turns signing bonus and simply smooths out the cap hit through the end of the contract. it would make sense and fit with a newer trend in deals around the league. clay would have no reason to say no.
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 What happens next year We continue to run an nfl team just like all those others that get threads about "how did they do that?!?!" And fans continue to learn about contract structure and rising caps.
nucci Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 What happens next year Why don't we try to enjoy this year. The Bills have people who are responsible for contracts. Let's watch football....
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 @PatMoranMix96: Outstanding look ahead by Buffalo Rumblings regarding Bills 2016 cap situation/projections http://t.co/HxRtpeorB3
BigBuff423 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I don't think Mario Williams is still on the team to start 2016, reatructured obviously is a consideration - but he doesn't really fit Rex's schematic type and with Wilkerson from the JETS a potential FA next year, might see him on the line instead of Mario moving back to a traditional 3-4 Defense.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I don't think Mario Williams is still on the team to start 2016, reatructured obviously is a consideration - but he doesn't really fit Rex's schematic type and with Wilkerson from the JETS a potential FA next year, might see him on the line instead of Mario moving back to a traditional 3-4 Defense.A 1st team all-pro that is a team captain fits in anyone's scheme. They will restructure to make it more cap friendly. Mario will be retiring a Bill.
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I don't think Mario Williams is still on the team to start 2016, reatructured obviously is a consideration - but he doesn't really fit Rex's schematic type and with Wilkerson from the JETS a potential FA next year, might see him on the line instead of Mario moving back to a traditional 3-4 Defense.rex fits his scheme to Mario
BigBuff423 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 A 1st team all-pro that is a team captain fits in anyone's scheme. They will restructure to make it more cap friendly. Mario will be retiring a Bill. I'm not understating his talent, but keep in mind he came to Buffalo at a time when the BILLS' roster was bereft of quality talent sans KW, and desperate to make Chan and Wanny's team work, the deal doesn't necessarily fit what the team will need, and want, to do in 2016 - just as a guess. Championship teams take calculated risks and those risks include letting guys go / trade / cut when their value has diminished compared to their cost. It's not anything against Mario, but the contract relative to where the team is now compared to where it was when the contract was signed. Just my opinion - not starting a fire here. rex fits his scheme to Mario And that may very well happen, you could very much be right - but Rex's history suggests otherwise, dating back to the Ravens. This year, it's obvious he'll use the talent he has and make the most of it, largely because he has to. But with this Draft still ahead, next year's FA and Draft, I'll bet that the team moves much closer to his standard 3-4, again IMHO
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I'm not understating his talent, but keep in mind he came to Buffalo at a time when the BILLS' roster was bereft of quality talent sans KW, and desperate to make Chan and Wanny's team work, the deal doesn't necessarily fit what the team will need, and want, to do in 2016 - just as a guess. Championship teams take calculated risks and those risks include letting guys go / trade / cut when their value has diminished compared to their cost. It's not anything against Mario, but the contract relative to where the team is now compared to where it was when the contract was signed. Just my opinion - not starting a fire here. And that may very well happen, you could very much be right - but Rex's history suggests otherwise, dating back to the Ravens. This year, it's obvious he'll use the talent he has and make the most of it, largely because he has to. But with this Draft still ahead, next year's FA and Draft, I'll bet that the team moves much closer to his standard 3-4, again IMHO I guess this is where we disagree. He is coming off of the best season of his career. He is THE guy that makes the defense tick. His dominance opens things up for everyone else. The Bills have no intention of letting him go and have some pretty easy options to restructure him to minimize his cap hit. If anyone from that DL will be moving on it will be Kyle Williams. I don't see that either but he will be the 1st of that group to move on. Mario will retire as a Buffalo Bill.
NoSaint Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 The thing is, a 300 lbs guy that runs a 4.7 fits literally every scheme. He's fast enough to be in speed roles and strong enough to be in power roles.
BigBuff423 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I guess this is where we disagree. He is coming off of the best season of his career. He is THE guy that makes the defense tick. His dominance opens things up for everyone else. The Bills have no intention of letting him go and have some pretty easy options to restructure him to minimize his cap hit. If anyone from that DL will be moving on it will be Kyle Williams. I don't see that either but he will be the 1st of that group to move on. Mario will retire as a Buffalo Bill. Totally good with this, that we may disagree on this point, and only time will tell. But appreciate you maintaining a positive and collegial discussion despite our differing of opinions...sad that in today's message board world, such a "thanks" has to even be stated, but it does. Regardless, whoever is wearing the red, blue, and white - I support them 100%.
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