NewEra Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I've seen a couple mocks have us taking safety in rd 2 because they think searcy is gone. Does anyone think Duke can step in and fill the void. I think he's a great fit in Rex's scheme. He had a few bad games midseason but his play seriously stepped up in the last 5 games or so. I'm a big fan. Hope we don't go safety early, but if we do who do you guys like? I haven't started researching the DBs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I know full-well how bad they were on the OL this year. My point remains that you can find decent guards in UFA and they don't typically cost a great deal. But you don't find outstanding TE's in UFA and if you do, they'll cost a pretty penny. The draft is not there only to fill needs, which invariably it becomes to a lot of posters here, because that's essentially how the Bills have used their top picks going back to around 2006. Savvy teams do better than draft for need. If you can select a player ranked in the area that he was drafted and fill a major need then that is a smart approach to take. The guard I referred to (Duke's Tomlinson) is considered to be a second round talent and value pick. I would have no problem taking him and boltersing a very weak positiion on this team. The guard position play last year was less than mediocre. It was a major vulnerability that hindered the offense. To put it mildly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 That said, I like me some Maxx Williams. I just wish he wasn't a red head. I've got no problem with red headed tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 the WR talent in last year's draft was nuts. we will never see that again. only an idiot would trade up to draft a WR in that draft Time will tell...... I want all you yahoos bitching about the trade up for Sammy Watkins to stand fast to your opinion.....and lets revisit it after this next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ranking Tevin Coleman as the #5 RB is a surprise to me. And that's going to change IMO. Yes to this!! Coleman is my first choice for out second-round pick. Unless we want to move up (again?!??!) for Gordon or Gurley. I've seen a couple mocks have us taking safety in rd 2 because they think searcy is gone. Does anyone think Duke can step in and fill the void. I think he's a great fit in Rex's scheme. He had a few bad games midseason but his play seriously stepped up in the last 5 games or so. I'm a big fan. Hope we don't go safety early, but if we do who do you guys like? I haven't started researching the DBs yet. I think we resign Searcy... Have we been given any indication that that will not happen. He seems perfectly adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I've got no problem with red headed tight ends.One thing to note: Williams is only 20. Turns 21 in April. Walford turns 24 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yes to this!! Coleman is my first choice for out second-round pick. Unless we want to move up (again?!??!) for Gordon or Gurley. I think we resign Searcy... Have we been given any indication that that will not happen. He seems perfectly adequate. I pray we do, but he played extremely well last year and his price tag could be higher than predicted. I wouldn't be shocked to see him offered 6 mill a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) I pray we do, but he played extremely well last year and his price tag could be higher than predicted. I wouldn't be shocked to see him offered 6 mill a year.and a lot of teams desperate for safety help, including his home town team of Atlanta. Searcy has really improved in the last couple years but he was better in Schwartz's D as more of a box safety than in Pettine's. So I wonder if that will be a factor. Edited February 12, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 G and a lot of teams desperate for safety help, including his home town team of Atlanta. The fact that he plays on a dominate defense that is actually on the cusp of doing something with Rex Ryan as the coach will weight as well I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Time will tell...... I want all you yahoos bitching about the trade up for Sammy Watkins to stand fast to your opinion.....and lets revisit it after this next season. Nobody is arguing Sammy isn't a good player. He might be a pro bowler some day. But Beckham Jr already is one. Benjamin will be one too. We didn't need to trade up to get a good receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nobody is arguing Sammy isn't a good player. He might be a pro bowler some day. But Beckham Jr already is one. Benjamin will be one too. We didn't need to trade up to get a good receiver. In fact, we could have traded down. Oh - and did I mention that this years class is loaded at WR again with Kevin White, Amari Cooper, DGB, etc... It feels like elite WR prospects are becoming a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) In fact, we could have traded down. Oh - and did I mention that this years class is loaded at WR again with Kevin White, Amari Cooper, DGB, etc... It feels like elite WR prospects are becoming a dime a dozen. the draft guys have said that the best WR in this class would have been the 4th best last year. They aren't all created equal. Not even close to "dime a dozen" if you want an "elite" guy. That's just a paradox. There are usually only a few at most per year who are projected to be a #1 WR immediately in the nfl. And DGB is a big gamble off field. 2014 was a standout WR class. Doesn't compare to this class. There are a few very good prospects. I don't see any as elite. Edited February 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Jamarcus Russell We do not need to read or watch anything Mayock or any of these morons say. They don't know any more than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Fans are awesome at hindsight. Tom Brady going in the 6th round was a mistake. I've got no problem with red headed tight ends. Excellent counter. I'm on the Maxx train. I also like Nick O'Leary. Dear Lord, can we finally get a real TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Jamarcus Russell We do not need to read or watch anything Mayock or any of these morons say. They don't know any more than we do. Everyone gets some of them wrong. I'll remind you that Mayock has been offered the GM job for 1 team, and been offered a FO job by at least 1 other team. He knows the process, and understands what teams look for better than most analysts. It would be, IMO, criminally misguided to toss out anyone's opinion based on one player evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Good notes from Matt Miller to add on to this thread @nfldraftscout: Scouting Notebook with an updated RD1 mock draft and where I'm hearing Demaryius Thomas will play next year http://t.co/OfyD8PhrVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Everyone gets some of them wrong. I'll remind you that Mayock has been offered the GM job for 1 team, and been offered a FO job by at least 1 other team. He knows the process, and understands what teams look for better than most analysts. It would be, IMO, criminally misguided to toss out anyone's opinion based on one player evaluation. Not that I don't trust you but do you have a link about Mayock being offered a GM position? He's my favorite but I hate how much stock some fans put into this "draft experts" draft boards. They are all subjective opinions. And it's much better to be on TV and not have to face the real pressure of being a GM and risk being fired. Does anyone respect Matt Millen's opinions anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not that I don't trust you but do you have a link about Mayock being offered a GM position? He's my favorite but I hate how much stock some fans put into this "draft experts" draft boards. They are all subjective opinions. And it's much better to be on TV and not have to face the real pressure of being a GM and risk being fired. Does anyone respect Matt Millen's opinions anymore? Indeed I do: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/mike-mayock-is-a-wanted-man/ Also, that's Matt Miller, not Matt Millen. Miller is a former NFL scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Indeed I do: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/mike-mayock-is-a-wanted-man/ Thanks. I take it with a grain of salt because he said it and there's no real proof. But he made the right choice. He has job security as a TV guy that he won't have as a GM. I really like Mayock but I hate the flipping out about bad picks and reach because of his board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 the draft guys have said that the best WR in this class would have been the 4th best last year. They aren't all created equal. Not even close to "dime a dozen" if you want an "elite" guy. That's just a paradox. There are usually only a few at most per year who are projected to be a #1 WR immediately in the nfl. And DGB is a big gamble off field. 2014 was a standout WR class. Doesn't compare to this class. There are a few very good prospects. I don't see any as elite. Just curious: Why is Amari Cooper not rated as an elite, can't miss prospect, along the lines of Watkins, AJ Green, etc? He sure looks like one to me, and his production (with a mediocre QB getting him the ball) is off the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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