BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 on any given Sunday with a has been QB :devil:
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 same division same soft schedule and conference teams. the AFCN usually splits yearly. and the Bills lost to the Raiders :blush: I don't think Cleveland usually splits, but the rest do haha. Also, the Browns beat the Raiders
dave mcbride Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=1999&seasonType=REG&experience=&tabSeq=0&qualified=false&Submit=Go Steve Beuerlein led the league in passing yards in 1999. And yes Warner was #2. I was not wrong Football is a team game. Look at the team passing yards. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/ .
major Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 I bet those mccown jerseys are going to fly off the shelves. I'm praying we draft petty now.
What a Tuel Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 same division same soft schedule and conference teams. the AFCN usually splits yearly. and the Bills lost to the Raiders :blush: Yeah...we aren't supposed to talk about that.
major Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Hopefully cleveland will step in and offer mccown more $ before we land him.
billieve420 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Where do you see the Bills rushing? There is no one out there that is any good. Moore hasn't played in years. Why do you think he's any better? Free Agency hasn't kicked off yet. The Bills are bidding against themselves. McCown's agent has all the leverage right now. Reason why I don't see the rush to sign a guy who was terrible last year and hasn't shown he is a clear upgrade over the other QBs soon to hit the market.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Free Agency hasn't kicked off yet. The Bills are bidding against themselves. McCown's agent has all the leverage right now. Reason why I don't see the rush to sign a guy who was terrible last year and hasn't shown he is a clear upgrade over the other QBs soon to hit the market. This is where you have to trust what your scouts tell you. That's why they have jobs with the team -- and lately, the scouts at OBD have been finding terrific talent.
major Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 What about Matt leinart? Vince young? This mccown news has me longing for younger busts
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Football is a team game. Look at the team passing yards. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/ . exactly my point. it IS a team sport. You can't wish for a passing QB and expect wins. Also how many of Orton's passing yards were from YAC? what did Orton's 300 YPG gain the Bills this season? If passing was such an advantage why were there so many 3 & outs? Why was the Red Zone Offense horrible? Why was the 2014 overall Offense 3 or 4 places worse than it was in 2013? As to your 1999 reference - Most passing yards Steve Beuerlein* 4436 Kurt Warner* 4353 >>> I said the QB with the most passing yards. Nowhere did I mention the #1 offense. You did happen to notice the rushing yards of 2059. 36 yards shy of the leading team. I know the stats. I play that SB win card all the time as it is a true statement. (by the slimmest of margins) Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
nucci Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Free Agency hasn't kicked off yet. The Bills are bidding against themselves. McCown's agent has all the leverage right now. Reason why I don't see the rush to sign a guy who was terrible last year and hasn't shown he is a clear upgrade over the other QBs soon to hit the market. They're just negotiating. Why do you say they're bidding against themselves? They want a vet QB and want to sign McCown. What would you wait for? The other QBs that may hit the market are also not a clear upgrade over McCown. They're all below average
Kirby Jackson Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 You can't wish for a passing QB and expect wins. Now, I'm confused?
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 WTF are the Browns thinking? They would sign McCown over Hoyer? And why, exactly? Just another textbook example of why that organization is garbage.hoyer is the one who leaked the illegal text and some other stuff reportedly.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Now, I'm confused? Meaning having a passing QB does not always mean wins. Would it be nice, yeah as long as the team has a complimentary running game I have always bought into balance wins. See the Putrids this season when they had a running game. Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
reddogblitz Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) what did Orton's 300 YPG gain the Bills this season? Our first winning season in 10 years. Edited February 26, 2015 by reddogblitz
Kirby Jackson Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Meaning having a passing QB does not always mean wins. I have always bought into balance wins. See the Putrids this season when they had a running game. Neither does running the ball mean that you are going to win. I'm not sure that I am following the point? The way to win football games is to have a good coaching staff, 53 good players and good QB play.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Our first winning season in 10 years. credit the Defense not Orton. Credit Sammy's Yards After Catch!!! remind me how the Bills lost to the Raiders, KC and Miami? Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Hopefully cleveland will step in and offer mccown more $ before we land him. And the alternative is ?? EJ. ?? Hope it's something better than that. I think McCown is every bit the QB that Orton was. And that was EASILY better than Mr. Manuel. You've got to keep trying & he probably is not an answer for more than 1-2 years but we can't waste #14 & #10 with a QB who can't throw it accurately. I say McCown or Hoyer and look for a QB in this or next years class to replace him. Or we could draft EJ's twin brother, Brett Hundley, so DB's can practice their pick six dances. in camp. Our first winning season in 10 years. Neither does running the ball mean that you are going to win. I'm not sure that I am following the point? The way to win football games is to have a good coaching staff, 53 good players and good QB play.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Neither does running the ball mean that you are going to win. I'm not sure that I am following the point? The way to win football games is to have a good coaching staff, 53 good players and good QB play. Did I not say balance? Yes or no? Do we really want to say Orton gave us "Good QB Play"???? I wish there was a site that tallied 3 & outs per game. Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 And the alternative is ?? EJ. ?? Hope it's something better than that. I think McCown is every bit the QB that Orton was. And that was EASILY better than Mr. Manuel. You've got to keep trying & he probably is not an answer for more than 1-2 years but we can't waste #14 & #10 with a QB who can't throw it accurately. I say McCown or Hoyer and look for a QB in this or next years class to replace him. Or we could draft EJ's twin brother, Brett Hundley, so DB's can practice their pick six dances. in camp. Comparing EJ to Hundley? They aren't all that similar in their styles of play. Also, I'm not sure what in McCown's 11 seasons tells you he's (a) as good as Orton (which isn't very good at all), or (b) better than Manuel.
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