Prickly Pete Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 They just want someone they think EJM can easily beat out. If McClown is the only QB brought in, EJM will beat him out, and be the starter.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) No, sir I'm not all over the place. My point stands Passing Yardage alone IS not THE reason teams wins championships!!! Did Drew Breese's top passing yards win him anything this season to finish 7-9?? Dude you are all over the place. Yes, at the end of the day, wins are the most important thing in football. No one is disputing that. However there are 53 guys on a football team. If you took a middling QB, let's say Alex Smith for example, and put him on the Jaguars last year, he would've gone 5-11. If Russell Wilson got hurt in preseason and the Seahawks went and traded for Alex Smith, the Seahawks still would've went 11-5 minimum. So the same guy, Alex Smith, has a drastically different record based on his supporting casts. Hell, Kyle Orton had a winning record on the Bills last year and he pretty much sucked. That says a lot about the Bills defense. Kyle Orton would NOT have had a winning record on the Buccaneers last year. The Buccaneers were/are in complete and utter disarray as a football team. Do you understand what I'm saying a little bit? And this is not even a defense of McCown. Yes, at the end of the day, wins are the most important thing in football See that wasn't that hard Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
metzelaars_lives Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 They just want someone they think EJM can easily beat out. If McClown is the only QB brought in, EJM will beat him out, and be the starter. No he won't.
metzelaars_lives Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) No, sir I'm not all over the place. My point stands Passing Yardage alone IS not THE reason teams wins championships!!! Did Drew Breese's top passing yards win him anything this season to finish 7-9?? Yes bills fan 4 ever, you have solved the long sought after formula on what it takes to win the Super Bowl: don't lead the league in passing yards. It is by no means an anomaly that no QB has ever led the league in passing and won the Super Bowl; rather there is a direct cause and correlation here. Don't worry, your boy EJ isn't going to be leading the league in passing yards anytime soon so that leaves us in the hunt at least. Meanwhile your Rodgers, Brees and Manning types who will compete for the league lead in passing yards have no chance whatsoever of winning the Super Bowl. I gotcha. you won't quit will you. Stubborn as a mule Enough again with your troll I hate EJ posts I'm not trolling. I really don't think Manuel is capable of beating out a Josh McCown in training camp and the preseason to win the Bills' starting QB job. Do you want to bet on it? Edited February 26, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
Jamie Nails Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 This is insurance. I'm fine with the move if there are others at the position to follow.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 is that the son of Ragnar Lothbrook on Vikings?
bisonbrigade Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 The Bills would be better off picking a QB before each game from the parking lot tailgate festivities.
metzelaars_lives Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 And to anyone questioning if McCown is more mobile than Kyle Orton, I suggest you watch this video. He might be more mobile than EJ Manuel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbKAwLb1nOY Please ignore the music. Also, turns out he is one of those pro-Jesus guys.
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 God I hope he's also negotiating with Cleveland on the down low and they beat us out for him. In a downright putrid year for getting a QB, he was #4 on my UFA want list
metzelaars_lives Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) No, sir I'm not all over the place. My point stands Passing Yardage alone IS not THE reason teams wins championships!!! Did Drew Breese's top passing yards win him anything this season to finish 7-9?? Yes, at the end of the day, wins are the most important thing in football See that wasn't that hard You are really somethin. So if in 1999, had Kurt Warner thrown for 88 more yards and finished with more yards than Beuerlein, is it your contention that they would have thus not won the Super Bowl? And when in God's name did anyone say that "passing yardage alone is the reason teams win championships?" Edited February 26, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Yes bills fan 4 ever, you have solved the long sought after formula on what it takes to win the Super Bowl: don't lead the league in passing yards. It is by no means an anomaly that no QB has ever led the league in passing and won the Super Bowl; rather there is a direct cause and correlation here. Don't worry, your boy EJ isn't going to be leading the league in passing yards anytime soon so that leaves us in the hunt at least. Meanwhile your Rodgers, Brees and Manning types who will compete for the league lead in passing yards have no chance whatsoever of winning the Super Bowl. I gotcha. I'm not trolling. I really don't think Manuel is capable of beating out a Josh McCown in training camp and the preseason to win the Bills' starting QB job. Do you want to bet on it? So you want to bet that a 36 year old with a 17-32 record and a 76.1 qb rating beats out a 25 year old with a 6-8 record and a 78.5 rating? Why would anyone hope for that? I guess you have to dig your heels in since you have stated that EJ sucks after 14 games with a crappy coaching staff that are now Jags' assistant coaches. But it would be awful if McNown was our starter. So awful. He has been good for a half of a season in his entire career. EJ just better win this job or this is going to be another pointless year. And to anyone questioning if McCown is more mobile than Kyle Orton, I suggest you watch this video. He might be more mobile than EJ Manuel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbKAwLb1nOY Please ignore the music. Also, turns out he is one of those pro-Jesus guys. Cool 5 starts. where are the other highlights from his other 11.5 years in the NFL?
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Please accept this award for your untiring effort to prove you ........... So you want to bet that a 36 year old with a 17-32 record and a 76.1 qb rating beats out a 25 year old with a 6-8 record and a 78.5 rating? Why would anyone hope for that? I guess you have to dig your heels in since you have stated that EJ sucks after 14 games with a crappy coaching staff that are now Jags' assistant coaches. But it would be awful if McNown was our starter. So awful. He has been good for a half of a season in his entire career. EJ just better win this job or this is going to be another pointless year. Cool 5 starts. where are the other highlights from his other 11.5 years in the NFL? Don't bother. All you are doing is :wallbash: :wallbash: Metz would say Warren Moon or Joe Montana or Joe Namath could come out of retirement and do better than EJ Edited February 26, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
TaskerTough Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 IMHO - McCown is filling the Kevin Kolb sized hole our team has had ever since that drunk tripped over a rubber mat. He is a capable, confident back up. Sadly, everyone is right that he will compete for the starting job and could beat EJ... but thats only because we don't have a starting qb. Now, I hope we send Tuel to the practice squad (Tuel is not an NFL football player, anyone who tells you otherwise missed Tuel's brief and embarrassing foray into meaningful game play). Finally, we get a high ceiling guy. Either a miracle trade or a late round athletic type with drug issues. I'd like to note that despite the above, I've never felt better in my life.
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 And to anyone questioning if McCown is more mobile than Kyle Orton, I suggest you watch this video. He might be more mobile than EJ Manuel. Please ignore the music. Also, turns out he is one of those pro-Jesus guys. not afraid to run, apparently. Might even go for the first down.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 IMHO - McCown is filling the Kevin Kolb sized hole our team has had ever since that drunk tripped over a rubber mat. He is a capable, confident back up. Sadly, everyone is right that he will compete for the starting job and could beat EJ... but thats only because we don't have a starting qb. Now, I hope we send Tuel to the practice squad (Tuel is not an NFL football player, anyone who tells you otherwise missed Tuel's brief and embarrassing foray into meaningful game play). Finally, we get a high ceiling guy. Either a miracle trade or a late round athletic type with drug issues. I'd like to note that despite the above, I've never felt better in my life. I think that this is perfectly said.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 And to anyone questioning if McCown is more mobile than Kyle Orton, I suggest you watch this video. He might be more mobile than EJ Manuel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbKAwLb1nOY Please ignore the music. Also, turns out he is one of those pro-Jesus guys. He's more mobile than EJ, no way just don't see it. For what it's worth the video is of only two games and against GB and Dallas who finished 2013 25th and 32nd defensively. Dallas gave up the third most yards in league history in 2013. http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2013/12/the-cowboys-finished-dead-last-in-total-defense-giving-up-6645-yards-this-season-they-allowed-4589-yards-passing-and-388.html
Dr. Who Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 So you want to bet that a 36 year old with a 17-32 record and a 76.1 qb rating beats out a 25 year old with a 6-8 record and a 78.5 rating? Why would anyone hope for that? I guess you have to dig your heels in since you have stated that EJ sucks after 14 games with a crappy coaching staff that are now Jags' assistant coaches. But it would be awful if McNown was our starter. So awful. He has been good for a half of a season in his entire career. EJ just better win this job or this is going to be another pointless year. Cool 5 starts. where are the other highlights from his other 11.5 years in the NFL? I am not crazy about this, but I think it speaks to the overall quality of free agent qbs out there. I expect EJ to beat him out -- pretty easily, actually. We need some vet as a backup. Roman and Kromer know him. They must think he's better than simply awful. I'm not capable of much more than a back-handed compliment. I think I would have preferred Hoyer. Guess we'll see.
What a Tuel Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Yes bills fan 4 ever, you have solved the long sought after formula on what it takes to win the Super Bowl: don't lead the league in passing yards. It is by no means an anomaly that no QB has ever led the league in passing and won the Super Bowl; rather there is a direct cause and correlation here. Don't worry, your boy EJ isn't going to be leading the league in passing yards anytime soon so that leaves us in the hunt at least. Meanwhile your Rodgers, Brees and Manning types who will compete for the league lead in passing yards have no chance whatsoever of winning the Super Bowl. I gotcha. I'm not trolling. I really don't think Manuel is capable of beating out a Josh McCown in training camp and the preseason to win the Bills' starting QB job. Do you want to bet on it? What do you want to bet? It takes Mccown 11 seasons to get comparable stats to EJ Manuels rookie 10 games haha.
dorquemada Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 not afraid to run, apparently. Might even go for the first down. That video gave me sad eyes and ears besides that, he didnt look half bad. I get that it's a highlight film but that throw into the corner of the endzone was sweet, and it looks like he can move behind the line. Look, if he's Kyle Orton +10%, we win another game or maybe 2 and we're easily in the playoffs, assuming EJ doesn't step up. Regardless, I'd rather have McCown as a capable veteran backup.
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