YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Barkley on where analytics comes from: Guys who aint never played the game & they never got the girls in HS" http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/index.html?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666#$/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/index.html http://thebiglead.com/2015/02/11/charles-barkley-daryl-morey-analytics-tnt-inside-the-nba/ Charles Barkley vs Rockets GM Daryl Morey Over Analytics is Silly Entertainment
Beerball Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I think he's right if you're talking BB. Only 5 players etc. baseball and to a lesser extent football are, excuse the pun, different ballgames.
Maury Ballstein Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 In basketball yes for sure. Toughness and teamwork are huge factors.
Cugalabanza Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I suppose analytics have some value, but crap like that always becomes a crutch. There are dorks in every line of work who can’t understand anything about the world or make a decision unless they can compare column C and D on a !@#$ing spreadsheet. That’s because they lack imagination, insight, vision. Analytics will only get you so far—the true visionaries in any field succeed because they can see the world as it is and don’t need it simplified and color coded for them. Tons of guys like this where I work. They are utterly clueless, but they can always justify their ludicrous position because they have a piece of paper that says A > B. I call it “spreadsheet sophistry.”
Jauronimo Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I suppose analytics have some value, but crap like that always becomes a crutch. There are dorks in every line of work who can’t understand anything about the world or make a decision unless they can compare column C and D on a !@#$ing spreadsheet. That’s because they lack imagination, insight, vision. Analytics will only get you so far—the true visionaries in any field succeed because they can see the world as it is and don’t need it simplified and color coded for them. Tons of guys like this where I work. They are utterly clueless, but they can always justify their ludicrous position because they have a piece of paper that says A > B. I call it “spreadsheet sophistry.” You know how I know that you don't work with data?
K-9 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Statistical analysis supports Barkley's position on this.
Fingon Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Barkley says analytics don't matter, yet he calls the Memphis Grizzlies the best team in the west. The Grizzlies have John Hollinger as their VP of basketball operations, who created PER...which is the pretty much the standard for basketball analytics. https://twitter.com/grizznationgng/status/558051268942647297
Maury Ballstein Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Grizzlies have had same core of Conley Zbo and Gasol for years. Conleys maturation is key imo. Don't see where the "analytics" has really made much of an impact. Vince Carter and Jeff Green additions ? Meh to analytics in basketball. Yes to whatever Popovich Carlisle and Budenholzer are doing.
YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 Grizzlies have had same core of Conley Zbo and Gasol for years. Conleys maturation is key imo. Don't see where the "analytics" has really made much of an impact. Vince Carter and Jeff Green additions ? Meh to analytics in basketball. Yes to whatever Popovich Carlisle and Budenholzer are doing. loved Conley at OSU. Underrated player in the nba.
Maury Ballstein Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 loved Conley at OSU. Underrated player in the nba. Tough as nails. One of the best defenders at pg imo. Has improved tenfold since he started.
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