YoloinOhio Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 They like Mettenberger. I can't see them going for the top QB's because they need so many other players. Maybe they would go for someone in the 2nd or 3rdthey said they aren't sold on Mett yet. No way Mariota lasts until 6 IMO. @BobGlauber: Titans GM Webster on QB Mettenberger: "I was not able to give him a commitment (as the starter) for next season." Options open at No. 2.
LB3 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Watching the QB portion of the combine, I've seen the same thing in Mariota that I saw in the National Championship. He looks terrified out there. Maybe it is just his general demeanor, but it is really off-putting. Watching him and Winston stand near each other is crazy because they are polar opposites in that respect.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 They like Mettenberger. I can't see them going for the top QB's because they need so many other players. Maybe they would go for someone in the 2nd or 3rd They may like Mettenberger but he didn't exactly light it up last year - <60% completions and equal # of TDs and INTs. At least publically, the Titans are a long way short of committing to him. To pass up a QB when you have the #2 pick, a GM has to either 1) already have a lot invested in their current QB (eg Rams/Bradford) 2) have a lot of confidence that the QB options at #2 really won't pan out and make him look stupid, because if he passes up a 1st round QB pick, Mr 6th round Mettenberger bombs, and Mr Coulda Hadja looks great he will get the "stupid" stamp
Sojourner Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Hopefully this doesn't happen. Sure MM may not be "ready" for the NFL but I think at some point down the line he has a good chance to succeed. Given Brady only has a few years left, I would rather that does not take place with the Jests.
billykaykay Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I will be very surprised if the Jets are able to get someone like Mariotta. I had to review the draft order myself, so maybe someone else does too. Here it is (current signed QB in parentheses) 1) Tampa Bay (Glennon, Lobato) 2) Tennessee (Whitehurst, Tanney, Mettenberger) 3) Jacksonville (Bortles, Henne, Morris) 4) Oakland (Carr, McGloin, Schaub) 5) Washington (Cousins, Griffin) I think if you're the TB or Tenn GM with that roster, and you don't take a QB, your seat gets plenty hot especially if that QB shows any potential somewhere else. It is possible that Jacksonville and Oakland hold with Bortles and Carr, though by TBDian logic they didn't light the world on fire last year (especially Bortles with those 17 INTs) so their respective teams should pull another fish out of the pond this year. So if Mariota or Winston go past Tampa and Tenn, a trade up with Jacksonville or Oakland looks possible. I hope they hold the Jets feet to the fire if they try it. I don't know why McShay has an audience though. Isn't he the one who touted Clausen as the best QB in his draft and likewise ranked Gabbert higher than Cam Newton? I don't think he's shown himself to be a very accurate predictor, either of talent or of how NFL teams view talent. I think that Tenn likes Mettenberger & will therefor trade down.
Doc Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Going with Mettenberger will be a huge mistake for them. But I can see them trading down. Will the Jets give up enough to move up to #2?
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Going with Mettenberger will be a huge mistake for them. But I can see them trading down. Will the Jets give up enough to move up to #2?i can't see TN passing up a QB at 2. Mettenberger was a 6th rd pick and got hurt as soon as he played 6 games, after getting hurt in college. He was 0-6 for them. Why would they rely on that guy. The only question would be if they trade for someone like cutler then maybe they go defense or trade the pick.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 i can't see TN passing up a QB at 2. Mettenberger was a 6th rd pick and got hurt as soon as he played 6 games, after getting hurt in college. He was 0-6 for them. Why would they rely on that guy. The only question would be if they trade for someone like cutler then maybe they go defense or trade the pick. Yeah, I was going to post the same thing. ZM has like a 19 qbr or something. He has ODB and Landry and got himself drafted in the 6th round. To pass on one of the top 2 Qbs for him is just silly. That said, I would worry about at Mariotta going to the Jets. He seems like a nice, laid back kid. The piranhas that are the media and fans would eat him alive.
John from Riverside Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Guys.....MM going to the jets would be bad for us Dont read too much into his demeanor......that is the way he is....extremely humble and lead by example The kid is ultra talented and can do it all
YoloinOhio Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Jets will need to trade up to get him IMO. Don't see any way he falls past 2, let alone to 6.
CodeMonkey Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 That said, I would worry about at Mariotta going to the Jets. He seems like a nice, laid back kid. The piranhas that are the media and fans would eat him alive. That's actually the kind of kid that would survive the NYC media. It's the A type personality egomaniacs that get wrapped up in all that circus garbage. Laid back people tend to let that **** roll off them. I watched some of the QB combine and from what I saw and heard I would not want him on the Jets. His mechanics and footwork looked good, far better than any other QB there and also far better than any QB currently on the Jets or Bills.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 That's actually the kind of kid that would survive the NYC media. It's the A type personality egomaniacs that get wrapped up in all that circus garbage. Laid back people tend to let that **** roll off them. I watched some of the QB combine and from what I saw and heard I would not want him on the Jets. His mechanics and footwork looked good, far better than any other QB there and also far better than any QB currently on the Jets or Bills. Maybe but folks are way too quick to anoint college QBs. Odds are, he will fail to live up to the hype. It's such an huge jump in competition. The Pac 12 is a terrible defense conference and too many Oregon QBs have been hot garbage on the NFL level. I think he is the best of the bunch, but long way to go. Plus we have a defense that shuts down Peyton and Rodgers. I'm not worried about a college kid. Prove it.
BarleyNY Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Jets will need to trade up to get him IMO. Don't see any way he falls past 2, let alone to 6. Agreed. I think the only team that could possibly swing a trade to 2 for MM is Philly (and it would be tough). That's because they could include Foles in the package. No way does TEN come off of the second overall pick without a QB acquired somehow and I can't think of another viable way they get one. Maybe that's why TEN has been playing coy on MM. That or maybe they're trying to entice JAX to flip picks by feigning interest in their top target.
CodeMonkey Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Maybe but folks are way too quick to anoint college QBs. Odds are, he will fail to live up to the hype. It's such an huge jump in competition. The Pac 12 is a terrible defense conference and too many Oregon QBs have been hot garbage on the NFL level. I think he is the best of the bunch, but long way to go. Plus we have a defense that shuts down Peyton and Rodgers. I'm not worried about a college kid. Prove it. Agreed, it's a huge jump from college to the NFL for a QB. But he seems to be starting off better than a lot of them.
4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I want Shane Ray at 6, or Cooper. But just like the 2008 draft we won one too many games, and will miss out on the two guys that can really help us. Not a fan of Mariota becuase he should NOT play day one. He needs at least a half season to sit and learn. And if the Jets take him there will be way too much pressure to start him day one. He will be a deer in the headlights by week 8. I actually like the kid, so I don't want the Jets and the NYC Media to destroy him. I want Foles as our starter. He has just enough experince to hit the ground running an appease a pretty frustrated fan base. Jets fans aren't like Bills fans. We haven't seen the post season in 4 years and we are ready to burn down Florham Park. I have no idea how yall have accepted 15 years of futility. The way you guys win the most games next year is with Ryan Fitzpatrick who knows chan's offense and a good wr in the draft. Good luck.
Beerball Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Guys.....MM going to the jets would be bad for us Dont read too much into his demeanor......that is the way he is....extremely humble and lead by example The kid is ultra talented and can do it all How do you know this when he hasn't been asked to "do it all?"
ALF Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Titans should take Mariotta at 2, let Mettenberger start all season if needed while MM has time to get NFL ready. Another team might make Tenn a offer they can't refuse for #2 is another good option.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Titans should take Mariotta at 2, let Mettenberger start all season if needed while MM has time to get NFL ready. Another team might make Tenn a offer they can't refuse for #2 is another good option. If they do, they'll regret not taking L. Williams. The guy is the best football player in the draft, and it's not close.
dave mcbride Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah, I was going to post the same thing. ZM has like a 19 qbr or something. He has ODB and Landry and got himself drafted in the 6th round. To pass on one of the top 2 Qbs for him is just silly. That said, I would worry about at Mariotta going to the Jets. He seems like a nice, laid back kid. The piranhas that are the media and fans would eat him alive. Eli Manning is the same type, and he's done just fine.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Eli Manning is the same type, and he's done just fine. Eli has the last name so he had a longr leash to begin with. He has been nearly run out of town numerous times. The Giants got hot twice. Given how patient folks are with QBs these days, Mariotta might not have long if he struggles.
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