YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Do the Bills move up this year into the late first/early second to take Bret Hundley? He could be there in the early 30s. He's the classic high risk-high reward player. Thoughts on Hundley? As a UCLA alum, I don't know what to think. He takes a ton of sacks - way too many in my opinion - and he's had some dispiriting performances. But the Bruins have been good the past couple of seasons ... EDIT: Apparently he's seen as having very high bust potential: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441350/article/scout-foresees-ucla-qb-brett-hundley-as-a-bust EDIT #2: Bleacher Report has a very good analysis: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2279354-uclas-brett-hundley-is-2015-nfl-drafts-most-polarizing-quarterback-prospect (Just delete the space between "bleacher" and "report" to get to the story.) Ironically Joe B just tweeted this. Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia 5m5 minutes ago Draft names to watch: QB Brett Hundley http://bit.ly/1CxYgDm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Ironically Joe B just tweeted this. Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia 5m5 minutes ago Draft names to watch: QB Brett Hundley http://bit.ly/1CxYgDm LOL. Mind meld, I guess - or perhaps he's reading the board! His weaknesses sound a lot like EJ's. The BR story is good on that. My UCLA friends don't think he will be a good NFL QB for those main reasons, pocket awareness and just plays awful sometimes. He looks the part, and makes great plays at times. I don't see him as any great er chance than EJ. Probably right, but it is the case that players can improve. I don't think Buffalo is the right setting for him, but another team might be. SF strikes me as a pretty good landing spot for him given the nature of their QB game. Edited February 5, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Alex Smith. Bills have wanted him. +1!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I think everyone except the most paranoid of the "Bills to LA/Toronto" crowd assumed Pegula would be the Bills owner. And what direction at QB has NOT been put forth at TBD as a unique thread? Why would this guy tease such a generic "something is gonna happen at QB" tweet? Who couldn't tweet that at this point? I don't think that he is referencing the lunatics like us that have discussed evey possible scenario. I think the point is that the few (2,3,4, whatever) most speculated scenarios at QB are not the plan. We don't know what that number is though which is why it is vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 My UCLA friends don't think he will be a good NFL QB for those main reasons, pocket awareness and just plays awful sometimes. He looks the part, and makes great plays at times. I don't see him as any great er chance than EJ. I would not be on board with Hundley. Bigger project than EJ at the NFL level in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 LOL. Mind meld, I guess - or perhaps he's reading the board! His weaknesses sound a lot like EJ's. The BR story is good on that. Probably right, but it is the case that players can improve. I don't think Buffalo is the right setting for him, but another team might be. SF strikes me as a pretty good landing spot for him given the nature of their QB game. He has as good a chance as any, which is tiny. I'm more wary of 2nd round QBs than almost any of them. They're not good enough to get into the first round where teams will gamble on talent like crazy. You very rarely see guys like that do well enough. I have a personal bias, so I don't like guys like Dalton who I don't think you win with, which affects my stance on this kind of thing. But second rounders are career backups at best over the last 30 years. And I know there are a few exceptions. But they don't win, and you go looking for a different guy in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I don't think that he is referencing the lunatics like us that have discussed evey possible scenario. I think the point is that the few (2,3,4, whatever) most speculated scenarios at QB are not the plan. We don't know what that number is though which is why it is vague. I guess I didn't understand who he means by "not many others" have talked about...fans? "Sports journalists"? Insiders at OBD (we wouldn't know who they were or were not taling about anyway, so it can't be them)? Edited February 5, 2015 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I guess I didn't understand who he means by "not many others" have talked about...fans? "Sports journalists"? Insiders at OBD (we wouldn't know who they were or were not taling about anyway, so it can't be them)? I assume he meant local media, Bills bloggers etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I guess I didn't understand who he means by "not many others" have talked about...fans? "Sports journalists"? Insiders at OBD (we wouldn't know who they were or were not taling about anyway, so it can't be them)? So you didn't see the tweet, read the thread, or understand it. Glad you chimed in to criticize it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Road sodas is obviously just speculating but FWIW Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 4m4 minutes ago Could RG3 be Roman's perfect QB option? I think it's likely, especially if Washington is willing to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Road sodas is obviously just speculating but FWIW Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 4m4 minutes ago Could RG3 be Roman's perfect QB option? I think it's likely, especially if Washington is willing to trade him. There's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Should be pretty obvious they want an experienced QB to start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 This thread is incredibly depressing. You'll feel better when Byron Brown is handing Drew Willy the key to the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 There's your answer. God I hope not. He has to learn the QB position all over again. I can't believe how many plays he doesn't do the right thing, even just like not setting his feet. He is, I guess, better than we have. And I guess I will trust Roman's judgment, as I believe he is going to have as much input as Whaley and probably more than Rex as far as what veteran QB we go after. So if we get him, I'm confident that Roman thinks he knows how to fix him, because he is completely broken. Even on great passes he will often just throw all arm, and that is a recipe for disaster, which usually followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 He has as good a chance as any, which is tiny. I'm more wary of 2nd round QBs than almost any of them. They're not good enough to get into the first round where teams will gamble on talent like crazy. You very rarely see guys like that do well enough. I have a personal bias, so I don't like guys like Dalton who I don't think you win with, which affects my stance on this kind of thing. But second rounders are career backups at best over the last 30 years. And I know there are a few exceptions. But they don't win, and you go looking for a different guy in a few years. Drew Brees: bona fide NFL second rounder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Drew Brees: bona fide NFL second rounder! He doesn't count. He was pick 32! That's first rounder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 God I hope not. He has to learn the QB position all over again. I can't believe how many plays he doesn't do the right thing, even just like not setting his feet. He is, I guess, better than we have. And I guess I will trust Roman's judgment, as I believe he is going to have as much input as Whaley and probably more than Rex as far as what veteran QB we go after. So if we get him, I'm confident that Roman thinks he knows how to fix him, because he is completely broken. Even on great passes he will often just throw all arm, and that is a recipe for disaster, which usually followed. I'm the opposite of a fan of Griffin. I don't think he's any good and I question his ability interpret what's in front of him on the field. He was sacked at an RJ-like rate of 13.4 percent this season. If you don't like Andy Dalton because you don't think he get a playoff team to the next level, you will feel the same about Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 God I hope not. He has to learn the QB position all over again. I can't believe how many plays he doesn't do the right thing, even just like not setting his feet. He is, I guess, better than we have. And I guess I will trust Roman's judgment, as I believe he is going to have as much input as Whaley and probably more than Rex as far as what veteran QB we go after. So if we get him, I'm confident that Roman thinks he knows how to fix him, because he is completely broken. Even on great passes he will often just throw all arm, and that is a recipe for disaster, which usually followed. I'm okay with RG3. He has some flaws but has also proven to be an accurate thrower and a dynamic playmaker (even at this level). He is all screwed up at the moment but a lot of that could be recovering from that injury. Anyone that we are talking about comes with some risk. RG is high on the risk scale but also probably highest on the reward scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Time for a re-read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/19/chris-cooley-rgiii-was-so-bad-i-cant-assess-the-rest-of-the-redskins-offense/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Problem with RGIII is his ability to read the field and I think given the number of times he makes the wrong read that he doesn't spend enough time in the film room and in his play book. Edited February 5, 2015 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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