John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 And that in a nutshell is what free agency should be. Tru dat FB might not be flashy to some.....but if we are going to grind it out on the ground you want this guy on your team
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Tru dat FB might not be flashy to some.....but if we are going to grind it out on the ground you want this guy on your team If we can get a decent Alex Smith impression out of our Qbs (hopefully EJ), we have the 49ers/ Seahawks type model of a team.
billsfan1959 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Love the signing. Now a decent TE and one or two second tier linemen (Boling or Blalock)
BillsVet Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 When you have Montana you can innovate in the passing game. When you have Mcmahon you win with Sweetness and D. And yet, Walsh went after Steve Young and managed to keep that dynasty going well into the 90s after he'd already left. I'll give Rex time to see if ground and pound combined with a good defense works. If it doesn't, they'll be back to square one looking for a QB, but not before the rookie contracts of Woods and Watkins continue to tick. There's nothing worse than being a 7-9 win team, i.e. stuck in no-man's land. Not bad enough to land a top QB prospect and no good enough to make the post-season.
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 And yet, Walsh went after Steve Young and managed to keep that dynasty going well into the 90s after he'd already left. I'll give Rex time to see if ground and pound combined with a good defense works. If it doesn't, they'll be back to square one looking for a QB, but not before the rookie contracts of Woods and Watkins continue to tick. There's nothing worse than being a 7-9 win team, i.e. stuck in no-man's land. Not bad enough to land a top QB prospect and no good enough to make the post-season. Overall agree. But how many of the top Qbs even went high in the 1st round. Not Brees, Rodgers, Romo, Wilson, Brady, etc.
scribo Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Guess that Joe Chenelly had it. Again. Interesting.
stevestojan Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Great move. Need to keep Fred to help block on third downs as well though.
finn Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Mind if I play the pessimist? There's a reason fullbacks are vanishing: they don't carry their weight. Put a fullback on the field, especially one who can't catch like Felton (or so I read here) and an extra linebacker comes on. The box is stacked because there's only three receivers on the field, maybe two, and there's no room for running or short passes, so soon we have third and long with our heroes EJ or Cassel throwing into a blitz or double coverage. Why is everyone so happy? Courteous answers welcome.
Big Turk Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Overall agree. But how many of the top Qbs even went high in the 1st round. Not Brees, Rodgers, Romo, Wilson, Brady, etc. Add Roethlesberger and Flacco as well
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Mind if I play the pessimist? There's a reason fullbacks are vanishing: they don't carry their weight. Put a fullback on the field, especially one who can't catch like Felton (or so I read here) and an extra linebacker comes on. The box is stacked because there's only three receivers on the field, maybe two, and there's no room for running or short passes, so soon we have third and long with our heroes EJ or Cassel throwing into a blitz or double coverage. Why is everyone so happy? Courteous answers welcome. Adrian Peterson had 2,000 yards running behind him. Edited March 10, 2015 by C.Biscuit97
scribo Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 McCoy grades out as the #1 back in the league against eight men in the box. That extra linebacker would end up being responsible for covering McCoy. That'd be advantage Buffalo.
ExWNYer Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Mind if I play the pessimist? There's a reason fullbacks are vanishing: they don't carry their weight. Put a fullback on the field, especially one who can't catch like Felton (or so I read here) and an extra linebacker comes on. The box is stacked because there's only three receivers on the field, maybe two, and there's no room for running or short passes, so soon we have third and long with our heroes EJ or Cassel throwing into a blitz or double coverage. Why is everyone so happy? Courteous answers welcome. Because he's one of the best FBs in the league and Roman's offense is predicated on TEs, RBs, & FBs and the Bills will, presumably, be a run heavy team. Reason enough?
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Another positive move changing our identity and showing all we r serious
OldTimer1960 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 And yet, Walsh went after Steve Young and managed to keep that dynasty going well into the 90s after he'd already left. I'll give Rex time to see if ground and pound combined with a good defense works. If it doesn't, they'll be back to square one looking for a QB, but not before the rookie contracts of Woods and Watkins continue to tick. There's nothing worse than being a 7-9 win team, i.e. stuck in no-man's land. Not bad enough to land a top QB prospect and no good enough to make the post-season. What are you proposing- that they trade away all their good players in order to try to get the 1st pick in the draft to find a QB? If so, I argue that the NFL is a lot different than the NHL and NBA. 1. In the NHL/NBA, a true superstar at ANY position can make a team a contender. That is only true in the NFL of ONE position (QB). 2. In the NFL, teams depend on a lot more supporting positions and depth is more important than it is in hockey and hoops. 3. Great QBs are RARE in the NFL draft, even with the 1st overall pick. How many years have no viable NFL starting QBs, much less a great QB that can overcome the weakness in the rest of your roster that let you get the 1st pick in the first place?
machine gun kelly Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I don't know the answer, but how much better is he than Frank "The Tank" Summers"? That's not an editorial. I don't know enough other than a small amount of stats on him. If anyone has perspective, please add. If we truly get a top Guard, and a difference maker TE, then this could make sense. I was so disappointed on the Foles trade as an aside. Oh well. We're really rolling with EJ.
Chandler#81 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 If we can get a decent Alex Smith impression out of our Qbs (hopefully EJ), we have the 49ers/ Seahawks type model of a team. Ok, now you're dreaming -again..
MDH Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 And yet, Walsh went after Steve Young and managed to keep that dynasty going well into the 90s after he'd already left. I'll give Rex time to see if ground and pound combined with a good defense works. If it doesn't, they'll be back to square one looking for a QB, but not before the rookie contracts of Woods and Watkins continue to tick. There's nothing worse than being a 7-9 win team, i.e. stuck in no-man's land. Not bad enough to land a top QB prospect and no good enough to make the post-season. You dont have to wait and see, just look at the Seahawks and Niners the past few seasons.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Mind if I play the pessimist? There's a reason fullbacks are vanishing: they don't carry their weight. Put a fullback on the field, especially one who can't catch like Felton (or so I read here) and an extra linebacker comes on. The box is stacked because there's only three receivers on the field, maybe two, and there's no room for running or short passes, so soon we have third and long with our heroes EJ or Cassel throwing into a blitz or double coverage. Why is everyone so happy? Courteous answers welcome. Fair enough, and I respect asking for a courteous answer. Overall in the league the movement has been to more of a passing game.This is the common trend the league is going, but it requires a dominating passing QB, and there are maybe six of them in the league. If you are not so blessed, you make schemes that make it easier. One way is the spread offense, which we saw make Fitz look like a long term starter for a while with barrel scraping receivers. Other examples are the Chip Kelly system. Greg Roman's (it's arguable how much of it is his how how much is Harbaugh's) revitalized the deemed bust Alex Smith, and plugged in a 2nd round pick that few had heard of to superstar status by forcing teams to send 8 or 9 men into the box to contain a power run game, leading receivers to be free in 1 on 1 matchups. If you have talented guys like Sammy and Woods (and hopefully an easy dump off TE who can fight off a safety and get 5-10 yards after the catch consistently), you tend to win those matchups. But you still need to run the ball effectively when you have those mismatches with 8 or 9 men in the box. Good fullbacks, really good fullbacks, when used in creative systems can help a ton. They can not only grind out hard short yardage situations, but they tend to be used in the screen game, and most importantly clear blocks for the superstar speedster running backs. In unglamorous work, and it tends to not get you big paychecks, but if you don't want the RB you are spending $8M a year for to get clobbered, and hit the hole for big yards. If you set up them as primary blockers, you can also fool some teams when they are the main ball carriers to get reliable yardage. Felton is considered one of the best in the game, and Vikings fans I've heard from say that he was a big component to AP getting his 2,000 yard season.
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