truth on hold Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 It's a fan vote fwiwI think (hope) the AP awards are considered the "official" unofficial real winners. Cuz teddy was solid but he hardly set the league on fire either. Plenty of more deserving rooks including .... Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Benjamin Carr Mack, mosley Zack Martin Donald
1billsfan Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Teddy Bridgewater's first 13 games: 15 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 1 Td rushing (12 INTs) 3 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 64 / YG 225 / Rating 85 OC: Norv Turner EJ Manuel's first 13 games: 17 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 3 TDs rushing (10 INTs) 1 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 58 / YG 187 / Rating 77 OC: Nate Hackett I'm not saying that Manuel is as good or better than Bridgewater because I certainly don't think he is right now. However, I'm just pointing out that Manuel is looked upon by many around here and definitely around the league as this horrific QB disaster, while Bridgewater is being hailed as a great up and coming QB. Yet, the stats just don't mesh with that wide of a gap in perceptions. Especially given the fact that Manuel had the putrid combo of Marrone and Hackett while Bridgewater had Norv Freakin' Turner. Geez, imagine if Marrone stayed on as the Bills head coach???? How awesome is it that the Bills will now get a very true and accurate indication of Manuel's abilities? Greg Roman is the real deal. He is a very good NFL offensive coordinator who made a playoff QB out of both average talents like Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. If EJ Manuel can't max out his potential with this guy then he is a lost cause. It's time for Manuel to drop the humble, good soldier persona and start acting confident and cocky because he knows without a doubt that he's the Bills QB of the future and he won't be beat out by anybody they bring in. That is what this franchise and his team mates are waiting for him to do. Start acting like the starting QB and then start backing it up in practice against the best defense in the NFL.
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 Teddy Bridgewater's first 13 games: 15 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 1 Td rushing (12 INTs) 3 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 64 / YG 225 / Rating 85 OC: Norv Turner EJ Manuel's first 13 games: 17 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 3 TDs rushing (10 INTs) 1 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 58 / YG 187 / Rating 77 OC: Nate Hackett I'm not saying that Manuel is as good or better than Bridgewater because I certainly don't think he is right now. However, I'm just pointing out that Manuel is looked upon by many around here and definitely around the league as this horrific QB disaster, while Bridgewater is being hailed as a great up and coming QB. Yet, the stats just don't mesh with that wide of a gap in perceptions. Especially given the fact that Manuel had the putrid combo of Marrone and Hackett while Bridgewater had Norv Freakin' Turner. Geez, imagine if Marrone stayed on as the Bills head coach???? How awesome is it that the Bills will now get a very true and accurate indication of Manuel's abilities? Greg Roman is the real deal. He is a very good NFL offensive coordinator who made a playoff QB out of both average talents like Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. If EJ Manuel can't max out his potential with this guy then he is a lost cause. It's time for Manuel to drop the humble, good soldier persona and start acting confident and cocky because he knows without a doubt that he's the Bills QB of the future and he won't be beat out by anybody they bring in. That is what this franchise and his team mates are waiting for him to do. Start acting like the starting QB and then start backing it up in practice against the best defense in the NFL. interesting! I agree the perception gap is a bit extreme. Many will probably point to accuracy as the main difference. It's Teddy's strength despite being undersized, small hands, etc. It's EJ's weakness, thus far. Probably the biggest difference re: perception between the two. Right now.
1billsfan Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 interesting! I agree the perception gap is a bit extreme. Many will probably point to accuracy as the main difference. It's Teddy's strength despite being undersized, small hands, etc. It's EJ's weakness, thus far. Probably the biggest difference re: perception between the two. Right now. One thing EJ has over Bridgewater is his size and that's usually big deal for the QB position in the NFL. You look at Bridgewater and you see a WRs body that will eventually be injured and sidelined by a DT or DE.
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 One thing EJ has over Bridgewater is his size and that's usually big deal for the QB position in the NFL. You look at Bridgewater and you see a WRs body that will eventually be injured and sidelined by a DT or DE. he definitely has that issue. Already hurt once this year and missed a game.
truth on hold Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 One thing EJ has over Bridgewater is his size and that's usually big deal for the QB position in the NFL. You look at Bridgewater and you see a WRs body that will eventually be injured and sidelined by a DT or DE. Not sure I'd go there, it was really injury that derailed ej's rookie season
frogger Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Teddy did say his favorite team growing up were the Bills...so that's nice
1billsfan Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Not sure I'd go there, it was really injury that derailed ej's rookie season You've got to have some hope that the injuries were a freak thing that won't be an issue the rest of his career. But that still is a concern until proven otherwise.
1B4IDie Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Whaaaaaa! Carr had a better rookie year than Bridgewater. Well atleast we don't have to hear "The Bills past on RoY WR ODB for Sammy."
Beef Jerky Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 They got it wrong IMO. Beckham had a rookie season for the ages. Bridgewater meh 50 QBR. Imo it also matters who will be the better player, and there is no question who that is ODB! ODB had one good catch. Sammy would have put up 2k yards with Eli.
Doc Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Teddy Bridgewater's first 13 games: 15 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 1 Td rushing (12 INTs) 3 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 64 / YG 225 / Rating 85 OC: Norv Turner EJ Manuel's first 13 games: 17 TDs total: 14 TDs passing / 3 TDs rushing (10 INTs) 1 4QC / 3 GWD Cmp% 58 / YG 187 / Rating 77 OC: Nate Hackett I'm not saying that Manuel is as good or better than Bridgewater because I certainly don't think he is right now. However, I'm just pointing out that Manuel is looked upon by many around here and definitely around the league as this horrific QB disaster, while Bridgewater is being hailed as a great up and coming QB. Yet, the stats just don't mesh with that wide of a gap in perceptions. Especially given the fact that Manuel had the putrid combo of Marrone and Hackett while Bridgewater had Norv Freakin' Turner. Geez, imagine if Marrone stayed on as the Bills head coach???? How awesome is it that the Bills will now get a very true and accurate indication of Manuel's abilities? Greg Roman is the real deal. He is a very good NFL offensive coordinator who made a playoff QB out of both average talents like Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. If EJ Manuel can't max out his potential with this guy then he is a lost cause. It's time for Manuel to drop the humble, good soldier persona and start acting confident and cocky because he knows without a doubt that he's the Bills QB of the future and he won't be beat out by anybody they bring in. That is what this franchise and his team mates are waiting for him to do. Start acting like the starting QB and then start backing it up in practice against the best defense in the NFL. And 7 of those games were in a dome.
FloridaSnow Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 ODB had one good catch. Sammy would have put up 2k yards with Eli. Look, I'm a Bills fan and like Watkins, but this is madness.
Beef Jerky Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Whaaaaaa! Carr had a better rookie year than Bridgewater. Well atleast we don't have to hear "The Bills past on RoY WR ODB for Sammy." Actually Teddy played better then Carr... Carr didn't even hit 59% completions.
Mr. WEO Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 You've got to have some hope that the injuries were a freak thing that won't be an issue the rest of his career. But that still is a concern until proven otherwise. He was sidelined 3 times starting in the preseason....
Beef Jerky Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 And 7 of those games were in a dome. How did he play 7 games in a dome?
Doc Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Look, I'm a Bills fan and like Watkins, but this is madness. Is it though? Who would you rather have throwing to you: Orton or Manning? You've got to have some hope that the injuries were a freak thing that won't be an issue the rest of his career. But that still is a concern until proven otherwise. It's a concern, but nothing to dwell on.
Beef Jerky Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Look, I'm a Bills fan and like Watkins, but this is madness. The truth can be maddening.
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 Whaaaaaa! Carr had a better rookie year than Bridgewater. Well atleast we don't have to hear "The Bills past on RoY WR ODB for Sammy."why was Carr's rookie year better? Not arguing I'm just curious. He was ranked 26 in total QBR and was 3-13. Teddy was 22 in total QBR and was 6-6.
Doc Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 How did he play 7 games in a dome? I was talking about Bridgewater.
Beef Jerky Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) I was talking about Bridgewater.Yea that's what I am talking about. I thought the Vikings had to play at an outdoor field till the new stadium was built? TCF Bank Stadium Edited January 31, 2015 by Beef Jerky
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